Need some advice on learning networking

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

I need to know the best/easiest way to migrate shared folders from one server to another - 2016 to 2019. These are enumerated folders. I'm researching it but any input would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[slimslob]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

I need to know the best/easiest way to migrate shared folders from one server to another - 2016 to 2019. These are enumerated folders. I'm researching it but any input would be appreciated.

Thanks.

According to post on Spiceworks "Migrating DHCP is pretty painless if you're already on Server 2016. He recommends using the Powershell commands."
As for files "He recommends migrating file shares using Robocopy. You can run incremental syncs and copy all of the security and attributes with it."

You can also use an online backup service such as iDrive, OneBackup or Carbonite. I have had customers Carbonite subscriptions replace existing filed computers with new run newer OS. The restore was able to detect the new OS and restore everything without touching the new OS.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

According to post on Spiceworks "Migrating DHCP is pretty painless if you're already on Server 2016. He recommends using the Powershell commands."
As for files "He recommends migrating file shares using Robocopy. You can run incremental syncs and copy all of the security and attributes with it."

You can also use an online backup service such as iDrive, OneBackup or Carbonite. I have had customers Carbonite subscriptions replace existing filed computers with new run newer OS. The restore was able to detect the new OS and restore everything without touching the new OS.

Thanks, slim. Robycopy is the best FREE alternative that I've found thus far. It's an interesting process but every command line must be precise. Luckily I don't have that many files to transfer.


The learning process continues....

PS - Moving the folders doesn't seem that complicated but the "share permissions" don't move with the folders using RobyCopy. That involves a few more steps.

PSS - The video below explains step-by-step how to use RobyCopy. It's a little involved.

[slimslob]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

Thanks, slim. Robycopy is the best FREE alternative that I've found thus far. It's an interesting process but every command line must be precise. Luckily I don't have that many files to transfer.


The learning process continues....

PS - Moving the folders doesn't seem that complicated but the "share permissions" don't move with the folders using RobyCopy. That involves a few more steps.

PSS - The video below explains step-by-step how to use RobyCopy. It's a little involved.

There is also xcopy.

[rthonpm]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

Server 2019 offers a feature called Storage Migration Service. It will transfer all SMB data as well as permissions and even rename the target server to the old system's name.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/storage-migration-service/overview

There's also DFS (distributed File System) which allows multiple servers to hold the same share data, and can be used in a pinch to sync data to a new server.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dfs/distributed-file-system-dfs-functions

Lastly, if the data is on a drive other than C: then the OS could be wiped and reloaded with the data drives untouched and then re-shared though if anything other than domain accounts are used, all permissions will need to be rebuilt.

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[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

Server 2019 offers a feature called Storage Migration Service. It will transfer all SMB data as well as permissions and even rename the target server to the old system's name.

Storage Migration Service overview | Microsoft Docs

There's also DFS (distributed File System) which allows multiple servers to hold the same share data, and can be used in a pinch to sync data to a new server.

Distributed File System (DFS) Functions - Win32 apps | Microsoft Docs

Lastly, if the data is on a drive other than C: then the OS could be wiped and reloaded with the data drives untouched and then re-shared though if anything other than domain accounts are used, all permissions will need to be rebuilt.

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Beautiful. Thanks, dude. I owe you....again.

[rthonpm]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

This is where virtual machines really make a huge difference. I did an upgrade of seven Server 2008 R2 file servers to Server 2016 in half a day. Since they were VM's with data on their own VHDX files, all I needed to do was build a new OS VHDX, give it the same name and IP of the old server and attach the data drives through the config file, then just reshare the folders, which pulled the existing permissions from the old server. No data to move, no worries about lost transfers, just clean and simple.

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[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

From an early age I've been good at selling things. That's not to say that I was great right out of the gate, just that I've always been able to sell things.


Well, sometimes that can put me in an awkward situation. Remember the server that had problems with the ethernet adapter? The one that was built on a Windows 10 motherboard?


I sold them an upgraded server and agreed to do a bunch of other crap to put them in a much better situation.


Most of you know that I only started playing around with computers/servers not long ago and I didn't know much of anything.

This company had a lot of computer on Windows 10 Home that had to be upgraded to PRO before joining the domain. I had to transfer a ton of folders/files from the old server and rebuild "permissions". I had never done any of this. They say you have to learn to crawl before you can walk. I'd say that they were right. This was good experience for me.

Oh, and I also had to migrate all the local profiles to the domain profile.

[rthonpm]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

From an early age I've been good at selling things. That's not to say that I was great right out of the gate, just that I've always been able to sell things.


Well, sometimes that can put me in an awkward situation. Remember the server that had problems with the ethernet adapter? The one that was built on a Windows 10 motherboard?


I sold them an upgraded server and agreed to do a bunch of other crap to put them in a much better situation.


Most of you know that I only started playing around with computers/servers not long ago and I didn't know much of anything.

This company had a lot of computer on Windows 10 Home that had to be upgraded to PRO before joining the domain. I had to transfer a ton of folders/files from the old server and rebuild "permissions". I had never done any of this. They say you have to learn to crawl before you can walk. I'd say that they were right. This was good experience for me.

Oh, and I also had to migrate all the local profiles to the domain profile.

Now that you've set up a domain you get the fun of setting up group policies, centralised update management (WSUS), and security groups.

Just adding computers to AD is just the first step. You've got a lot more fun left to go.

[BillyCarpenter]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

Now that you've set up a domain you get the fun of setting up group policies, centralised update management (WSUS), and security groups.

Just adding computers to AD is just the first step. You've got a lot more fun left to go.

I've gotten pretty good with group policy (I think) but haven't really done much with security groups. Hopefully, I won't let them down.

[slimslob]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

This company had a lot of computer on Windows 10 Home that had to be upgraded to PRO before joining the domain.

There are actual more than 2 versions of Windows 10. In addition to Home and Pro there is also Pro for workstations and Enterprise. Compare Windows 10 Editions: Pro vs. Enterprise – Microsoft

[rthonpm]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

I've gotten pretty good with group policy (I think) but haven't really done much with security groups. Hopefully, I won't let them down.

Security groups are just what you use for assigning permissions for SMB or other resources instead of adding individual people. It makes things much easier when all you need to do is edit a single group and it grants or removes permissions for everything that group has permissions to. Generally, it's departments or special permissions like say Finance or Finance Read Only etc. Using Access Based Enumeration on all of the shares I set up, there are a lot of different groups in many environments, but it also allows for incredibly granular permissions, even down to nested groups where membership in one group may add someone to another.

Think a shared project (call it Project Bravo) between two engineering teams (Team 1 and Team 2), so the members of the group Project Bravo are the groups Team 1 and Team 2 so as soon as someone is added or removed from one of those groups, they're automatically a member of Project Bravo, yet you can still add individuals to the Project Bravo group which would only give them access to anything that group has access to, and not anything else Team 1 and Team 2 have access to.

[rthonpm]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

There are actual more than 2 versions of Windows 10. In addition to Home and Pro there is also Pro for workstations and Enterprise.

Windows 10 Pro, Enterprise, and Education are all the same version. The only difference is how they are licensed: Pro uses a traditional license key while Enterprise and Education are licensed via a license server (KMS server). There are also other tools and features available for Enterprise and Education customers that aren't available to Pro users, as well as some group policy objects that are only applicable to those SKU's.

Windows 10 for Workstations is generally an OEM only version for very high-end systems with more than one processor or a very core dense processor.

[slimslob]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

Windows 10 Pro, Enterprise, and Education are all the same version. The only difference is how they are licensed: Pro uses a traditional license key while Enterprise and Education are licensed via a license server (KMS server). There are also other tools and features available for Enterprise and Education customers that aren't available to Pro users, as well as some group policy objects that are only applicable to those SKU's.

Windows 10 for Workstations is generally an OEM only version for very high-end systems with more than one processor or a very core dense processor.

The licensing also affects some of the security features. My daughter is a Computer Science Professor at Cal State University Bakersfield. They just recently got in new Dells for their computer lab. The Dells came with the Education version installed. Before their technician could load the software needed for the lab, they had to have the IT department come over and install the University's Enterprise licensing. I believe it had to do with the Credential Protection feature of Enterprise. Needed for SSO with the University's main servers for Zoom etc.

[rthonpm]

Re: Need some advice on learning networking

The licensing also affects some of the security features. My daughter is a Computer Science Professor at Cal State University Bakersfield. They just recently got in new Dells for their computer lab. The Dells came with the Education version installed. Before their technician could load the software needed for the lab, they had to have the IT department come over and install the University's Enterprise licensing. I believe it had to do with the Credential Protection feature of Enterprise. Needed for SSO with the University's main servers for Zoom etc.

Education and Enterprise offer the same features, but it looks like the school has an Enterprise KMS instead of Education so the OS would lose any kind of validation after 180 days of not talking to an activation server, and your SKU has to match what's on the server.

I've only really seen the Education edition in school districts. Most universities seem to go the Enterprise route since they often have activities that do generate profits, which would violate the Education license. The cost for Education is considerably less, but without being able to use it for anything that would generate income it does limit the use case for it.