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  • BillyCarpenter
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    Re: Need some advice on learning networking

    I need some more advice.

    I'm gonna buy a server. I'm not sure which one to buy. I have a chance to buy the following:



    Not sure about the prices as of yet. The guy is supposed to call me back later today with the price. This is a company that I've done business with before. I've bought a coupe of Cisco 24 port switches, a few PC's, a laptop and a couple of access points.


    Any advice before I make a bad decision?
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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Well, I just received the pricing for the servers.




      28788 Cisco C240 M4 2x Xeon E5-2640v3 2.6, 16x 32GB, 21x1.8TB(10k SAS) 3x600(10k SAS) FCH2117V32Z $2,100
      28788 Cisco C240 M4 2x Xeon E5-2640v3 2.6, 16x 32GB, 21x1.8TB(10k SAS) FCH2116V3BT $2,100
      28788 Cisco C240 M4 2x Xeon E5-2640v3 2.6, 16x 32GB, 21x1.8TB(10k SAS) FCH2118V0MJ $2,100
      28788 Cisco C240 M4 2x Xeon E5-2640v3 2.6, 16x 32GB, 21x1.8TB(10k SAS) Broken Bracket Ear FCH2052V0Z1 $2,100
      28796 Dell R220 Pentium G340 3.2, 8 GB, 500 HDD 4L07382 $25
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      • allan
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        Re: Need some advice on learning networking

        If its only going to be a tool for learning and home use you don't need expensive hardware.
        Then again this seems to be something you enjoy more than you mite care to admit.
        Sure there must be advantages to having higher end more suited hardware.
        Whatever

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          Originally posted by allan
          If its only going to be a tool for learning and home use you don't need expensive hardware.
          Then again this seems to be something you enjoy more than you mite care to admit.
          Sure there must be advantages to having higher end more suited hardware.
          I'll admit that I'm addicted. However, this won't be for only a learning tool. I'm tapped out on storage space on my PC and my backup drive is full. I also have other computers here at the office and it'd be nice to set them up on a domain.

          I really want to buy this server but I REALLY REALLY don't want to pay $2100. I'm gonna see if I can talk him down on the price. If not, I'll look for a better deal. Most servers that I've seen don't come loaded with all the memory and hard drives like this one.
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          • bsm2
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            Re: Need some advice on learning networking

            You should be able to a used Server for less than half of a new one.

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              Originally posted by bsm2
              You should be able to a used Server for less than half of a new one.


              Model#: UCS-EZ8-C240M4-V MSRP: $17,360.00
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              • tsbservice
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                Re: Need some advice on learning networking

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                I'll admit that I'm addicted. However, this won't be for only a learning tool. I'm tapped out on storage space on my PC and my backup drive is full. I also have other computers here at the office and it'd be nice to set them up on a domain.

                I really want to buy this server but I REALLY REALLY don't want to pay $2100. I'm gonna see if I can talk him down on the price. If not, I'll look for a better deal. Most servers that I've seen don't come loaded with all the memory and hard drives like this one.
                2100$ is more like the price of single gaming PC not a server. These come at a price for a reason you know.
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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  Originally posted by tsbservice
                  2100$ is more like the price of single gaming PC not a server. These come at a price for a reason you know.

                  That's true. You're about to talk me into buying this server.
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                  • allan
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                    See if the price can move a bit. Kick ass machine!

                    Ex-lease equipment is the way to go. I picked up this HP Z1 for $500!
                    Its an absolute joy.



                    https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-workstation-z1-xeon-e3-1245-3-3-ghz-monitor-led-27-series/


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                    Whatever

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                    • Phil B.
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                      Re: Need some advice on learning networking

                      why don't you just build your own? but the server software .. run with it .

                      big HDD lotsa ram

                      video card not that important

                      make sure it has lot of processing balls.

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                      • slimslob
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                        Re: Need some advice on learning networking

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        I'll admit that I'm addicted. However, this won't be for only a learning tool. I'm tapped out on storage space on my PC and my backup drive is full. I also have other computers here at the office and it'd be nice to set them up on a domain.

                        I really want to buy this server but I REALLY REALLY don't want to pay $2100. I'm gonna see if I can talk him down on the price. If not, I'll look for a better deal. Most servers that I've seen don't come loaded with all the memory and hard drives like this one.
                        If you main reason is disk storage space, have you considered a NAS? 9TB usable for $600 at Amazon.

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          If you main reason is disk storage space, have you considered a NAS? 9TB usable for $600 at Amazon.

                          https://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-TeraS...NsaWNrPXRydWU=

                          Thanks. I have considered it. But I really want a server. I admit that I WANT one more than I NEED one.

                          I also think if I get the right one it's something I'll use more as time passes. I also want all the RAM and processing speed to run a bunch of virtual machines.
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                          • slimslob
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                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            Thanks. I have considered it. But I really want a server. I admit that I WANT one more than I NEED one.

                            I also think if I get the right one it's something I'll use more as time passes. I also want all the RAM and processing speed to run a bunch of virtual machines.
                            As someone else suggested, you might try building your own. If possible check with near by state college and university computer science department for recommendations. You will most likely find that many of them have built their own servers in their homes.

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                            • Phil B.
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                              Originally posted by slimslob
                              As someone else suggested, you might try building your own. If possible check with near by state college and university computer science department for recommendations. You will most likely find that many of them have built their own servers in their homes.
                              that was me Slim,

                              you can come out way better building it piece by piece .

                              does he need a dual CPU setup?

                              what speed.?

                              I have some old school

                              PII Xeon processor

                              400MHz 512kb L2 cache w/ ecc


                              BILLYC.. if you can find a motherboard to build your server..

                              pay shipping from NC and it's yours

                              PM for further details

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                Originally posted by Phil B.
                                that was me Slim,

                                you can come out way better building it piece by piece .

                                does he need a dual CPU setup?

                                what speed.?

                                I have some old school

                                PII Xeon processor

                                400MHz 512kb L2 cache w/ ecc


                                BILLYC.. if you can find a motherboard to build your server..

                                pay shipping from NC and it's yours

                                PM for further details
                                Phil,

                                That's an incredibly kind offer and I really appreciate. The guy at the company that had the other server called me back a few minutes ago and offered to sell me a Dell PowerEdge R710 2U Server with X5650 2.66GHz 12-Cores / 64gb / 3x 1TB SAS / 2xPSU for $259.00 and I bought it.

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