Advance C250if drum counter

[campy]

I am looking to buy a C250if from a wholesaler that is showing around 3k color prints but when I go into the drum counter it says the drums are at 999%. Does this mean someone swapped the drums before selling it to the wholesaler? I know the wholesaler didn't do it since they only pick up end of lease and repo's, it would have had to happen at a dealer. Also has this model been a reliable model or are they prone to not so routine problems?

[teckat]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

COPIER> COUNTER> LF---for all colors
To display how much it is close to the end of life that is calculated from the value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB in percentage (%).
When a new part is set, the value becomes 0%.
It cannot be changed manually.

Use case = When checking the life of Drum Unit
Display/adj/set range 0 to 999
Unit 1 %
================================================== ===

Drum Unit Life Detection
Life of the Drum Unit (Photosensitive Drum) is detected.
This machine does not have a Photosensitive Drum film thickness detection mechanism
so the change in the film thickness is calculated by the rotation time of the Photosensitive
Drum + time that the primary charging DC bias is applied.

Detection description
1) The count value for the drum life is calculated by the rotation time of the Photosensitive
Drum + time that the primary charging DC bias is applied as well as the time that the
developing AC bias is applied.
2) The count value calculated in step 1 of "Control description" is added to the drum
count value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB of the Drum Unit.

NOTE:




PT-DRM Drum Unit (Bk) parts counter---same for Drum Unit (Y)/Drum Unit (M)/Drum Unit (C)
Lv.1 Details
1st line: Total counter value from the previous replacement
2nd line: Estimated life
The value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB is displayed.
It cannot be changed manually.

Use case
When checking the consumption level of parts/replacing the parts
Adj/set/operate method =
To clear the counter value: Select the item, and then press Clear key.■
To change the estimated life: Select the item, enter the value, and
then press OK key.
Caution - none
Display/adj/set range = 0 to 99999999
Default value = 0

[campy]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

COPIER> COUNTER> LF---for all colors
To display how much it is close to the end of life that is calculated from the value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB in percentage (%).
When a new part is set, the value becomes 0%.
It cannot be changed manually.

Use case = When checking the life of Drum Unit
Display/adj/set range 0 to 999
Unit 1 %
================================================== ===

Drum Unit Life Detection
Life of the Drum Unit (Photosensitive Drum) is detected.
This machine does not have a Photosensitive Drum film thickness detection mechanism
so the change in the film thickness is calculated by the rotation time of the Photosensitive
Drum + time that the primary charging DC bias is applied.

Detection description
1) The count value for the drum life is calculated by the rotation time of the Photosensitive
Drum + time that the primary charging DC bias is applied as well as the time that the
developing AC bias is applied.
2) The count value calculated in step 1 of "Control description" is added to the drum
count value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB of the Drum Unit.

NOTE:




PT-DRM Drum Unit (Bk) parts counter---same for Drum Unit (Y)/Drum Unit (M)/Drum Unit (C)
Lv.1 Details
1st line: Total counter value from the previous replacement
2nd line: Estimated life
The value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB is displayed.
It cannot be changed manually.

Use case
When checking the consumption level of parts/replacing the parts
Adj/set/operate method =
To clear the counter value: Select the item, and then press Clear key.■
To change the estimated life: Select the item, enter the value, and
then press OK key.
Caution - none
Display/adj/set range = 0 to 99999999
Default value = 0

I'm not sure if you are answering my question. The counter in service mode is saying the color drums are at 999% usage. Am I not understanding what your answer is?

[teckat]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

Depends where in service mode location u are looking.

One % can not be changed--on each individual Drum Unit Memory pcb.

Parts % counters are different.
Life % has nothing to do with amount of prints/copies, that depends on amount of coverage on paper.

Did u look at the PT-DRM Values ??
Line one can not be changed, locked into each units memory. see above.

Counter -LF can not be changed manually.
If this is 999% u have used drums, copy quality depends on how much coverage they were used on Printing.

Example,
If last owner made 3,000 color prints/copies at 50% page coverage , that would effect the CQ quality, if owner only printed at the Canon standard 6% coverage that fit into its standard.

[copyman]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

First off this machine is old and obsolete. Are you sure you are reading the count right? The old models were opposite of new machines how the black squares show. Don't think that model has the "E" (empty) "F" (full) next to squares which made it very confusing. Also with that model so old it's possible that it's saying 99% because the machine counts drum rotations not only how many pages have been used. If quality looks good I would assume they are the original drums and would chip them and be done with it.

By the way let me know if you need anything for it down the road. I have 2 working machines that I will be stripping parts off of to be sold on ebay.

[teckat]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

First off this machine is old and obsolete. Are you sure you are reading the count right? The old models were opposite of new machines how the black squares show. Don't think that model has the "E" (empty) "F" (full) next to squares which made it very confusing. Also with that model so old it's possible that it's saying 99% because the machine counts drum rotations not only how many pages have been used. If quality looks good I would assume they are the original drums and would chip them and be done with it.

By the way let me know if you need anything for it down the road. I have 2 working machines that I will be stripping parts off of to be sold on ebay.

Old !!
The Advanced C250if was released in 2014.

Have 25 year canon color products that still work like a charm.

NP300 , now that's an old product

[copyman]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

Haha long day driving, sorry wrong OEM model. Was thinking of Kon-Min C250

[campy]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

Old !!
The Advanced C250if was released in 2014.

Have 25 year canon color products that still work like a charm.

NP300 , now that's an old product

No NP 200 or even L7. I have worked on Canon products since 1973 when Saxon PPC1 was the same as the Canon L7 liquid copier. Now those were crap.

[campy]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

I think I have been reading these percentages wrong. I thought it was amount of life used and not the amount left. (counter, DBL 1, drums)

[teckat]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

I think I have been reading these percentages wrong. I thought it was amount of life used and not the amount left. (counter, DBL 1, drums)

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This is the most important setting

in service mode> under

COPIER> COUNTER> LF---for all colors

To display how much it is close to the end of life that is calculated from the value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB in percentage (%).

When a new part is set, the value becomes 0%.
It cannot be changed manually.

Use case = When checking the life of Drum Unit
Display/adj/set range 0 to 999
Unit 1 %

[campy]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

Here are the counters. Is it telling me the amount used or the amount left?IMG_0983.JPGIMG_0982.JPG

[roho]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

Here are the counters. Is it telling me the amount used or the amount left?[ATTACH=CONFIG]40658[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]40657[/ATTACH]

Don't go by those, I believe if you hit the info key you get a reserved for r&d explanation. Instead go to Copier>Counter>Life as techcat said. The life key is further to the right from Drbl 1. The number under Life increases as the drum is used. It is not a percentage as such so some drums will work over 100, depending on coverage. Check there.

Drbl 1 will give 999% usually for things like waste toner or some other supplies that may have not been replaced like filters.

[campy]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

Don't go by those, I believe if you hit the info key you get a reserved for r&d explanation. Instead go to Copier>Counter>Life as techcat said. The life key is further to the right from Drbl 1. The number under Life increases as the drum is used. It is not a percentage as such so some drums will work over 100, depending on coverage. Check there.

Drbl 1 will give 999% usually for things like waste toner or some other supplies that may have not been replaced like filters.

I believe the second picture is the life counter.

[roho]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

I believe the second picture is the life counter.

Correct, so all 4 drums would appear to be viable, usually get around 120 or so, granted light coverage and only a small number in the field. Typically these one fade when they wear down, as opposed to leaving streaks all over, typically.

[hutmah]

Re: Advance C250if drum counter

In your drbl page the life expectancy is set to 0 so it will show 999% from the first print.