After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

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  • kevinds
    Technician
    • Feb 2019
    • 10

    [Misc] After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

    Howdy,

    I updated the firmware on my/our C5045 printer, trying to get SMTP sending to work. After a few reboots and profanity shouted at the email provider, that is working..

    My issue since rebooting has been that the Status/Monitor function is missing from the on-device display.

    If I log in with the web-interface, I can see the status, but it is missing the Restart Job function that the on-device view offers.

    Pressing the Status button, I can see the Consumables tab information, but the actual 'Tabs' are missing for Copy/Print, Send, Receive, and Store.

    Yes, I have read the manual, searched the forum and the web. I read the manual again and again.

    I am sure it is a 'check-box' somewhere, but I can't find it.

    What did I do/change and how can I fix it?

    Thank you,

    Kevin
  • mosey1100
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • Mar 2009
    • 143

    #2
    Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

    You might have to do an MMI clear to get it back.

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    • kevinds
      Technician
      • Feb 2019
      • 10

      #3
      Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

      Originally posted by mosey1100
      You might have to do an MMI clear to get it back.
      Thank you.

      Is there anything I should be concerned about when doing 'MMI clear'?

      The service manual mentions (Page 716 on the PDF),

      COPIER > FUNCTION > CLEAR
      MMI Clear of user mode setting value
      Lv.1 Details To clear the user mode setting values (excluding values for
      Control Panel, common settings, and FAX).
      Common Settings
      Timer Settings
      Adjustment/Cleaning
      Report Settings
      System Settings
      Copy Settings
      Communications


      Timer Settings and Adjustment jump out at me as being important.

      Is MMI a factory reset?

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      • mosey1100
        Trusted Tech

        100+ Posts
        • Mar 2009
        • 143

        #4
        Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

        It is like resetting to factory specs, if anything in address book back it up first and make sure you have all the network settings to reinput after


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        • kevinds
          Technician
          • Feb 2019
          • 10

          #5
          Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

          Originally posted by mosey1100
          It is like resetting to factory specs, if anything in address book back it up first and make sure you have all the network settings to reinput after
          Alright, so I did the MMI reset.

          Service Menu, Copier, Function, Clear, paged over to page 3. Selected MMI, selected Ok, when the Ok button came back, I turned off the printer. Waited a few minutes and then turned it back on.

          Some things definitely reset but not all. Incoming faxes are still forwarded to an email address, but the paper type was set back to default.

          No change on the Job Status. Also showing a 'red wrench' and Finisher not available. at the bottom of the screen.

          What should I be trying next?

          Thank you again,

          Kevin

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          • techandtrader
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            Site Contributor
            250+ Posts
            • Jun 2016
            • 317

            #6
            Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

            If you haven't already go into the RUI and backup the Address books, One touch Buttons.
            Suspect a bad flash. Run a continuous ping and check connections Ping 192.168.1.0 -t

            Go into the additional functions and initialize all user data. That will wipe out all the user settings. Any fax forwarding will have to be set back up. The latest software adds the updated SMTP security options for the C5045. So far I have not had a machine have any issue and that includes Office 365. Its easy to host pictures at Imgur: The magic of the Internet.
            Last edited by techandtrader; 02-28-2019, 11:52 PM.
            I have used Canon Imagerunner parts for sale. Most are floor model Color and / Advances Imagerunner with some 3025 3235 parts. Several intact machines being parted.

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            • kevinds
              Technician
              • Feb 2019
              • 10

              #7
              Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

              Originally posted by techandtrader
              If you havent already go into the RUI and backup the Address books, One touch Buttons.
              Suspect a bad flash. Run a continues ping and check connections 192.168.1.0 -t

              Go into the additional functions and initialize all user data. That will wipe out all the user settings. Any fax forwarding will have to be set back up. The latest software adds the updated SMTP security options for the C5045. So far I have not had a machine have any issue and that includes Office 365. Its easy to host pictures at Imgur: The magic of the Internet. You can drop links here.
              Sorry, I am a little/very confused now..

              Unless one's subnet is a /23 or larger, that ping command will fail regardless.

              imgur for what?

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              • vigour
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Aug 2010
                • 1034

                #8
                Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

                If it says limited function mode, check for finisher error code and fix that.
                Red wrench might mean you have a blown controller

                I would initialize all settings
                Then run firmware upgrade again, possibly downgrading.

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                • copier tech
                  Field Supervisor

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 7934

                  #9
                  Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

                  Originally posted by kevinds
                  Howdy,

                  I updated the firmware on my/our C5045 printer, trying to get SMTP sending to work. After a few reboots and profanity shouted at the email provider, that is working..

                  My issue since rebooting has been that the Status/Monitor function is missing from the on-device display.

                  If I log in with the web-interface, I can see the status, but it is missing the Restart Job function that the on-device view offers.

                  Pressing the Status button, I can see the Consumables tab information, but the actual 'Tabs' are missing for Copy/Print, Send, Receive, and Store.

                  Yes, I have read the manual, searched the forum and the web. I read the manual again and again.

                  I am sure it is a 'check-box' somewhere, but I can't find it.

                  What did I do/change and how can I fix it?





                  Thank you,

                  Kevin
                  I dont think you have been given the best advice here, you've now added to a simple issue you had.

                  Press the additional function key this will tell you what the spanner error code is?

                  From the home screen top right corner press this, you can simply add/remove the missing screen icons from there.

                  Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                  For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                  www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                  • kevinds
                    Technician
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 10

                    #10
                    Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

                    Originally posted by copier tech
                    I dont think you have been given the best advice here, you've now added to a simple issue you had.

                    Press the additional function key this will tell you what the spanner error code is?

                    From the home screen top right corner press this, you can simply add/remove the missing screen icons from there.

                    I'm not missing screen icons, I'm missing the job statuses pages, to cancel or check on print/copy/fax jobs..

                    Otherwise, yes, my problems seem to have increased.

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                    • copier tech
                      Field Supervisor

                      5,000+ Posts
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 7934

                      #11
                      Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

                      Originally posted by kevinds
                      I'm not missing screen icons, I'm missing the job statuses pages, to cancel or check on print/copy/fax jobs..

                      Otherwise, yes, my problems seem to have increased.
                      Ok lets start with the new issue, what is your error message?

                      How did you update the firmware, via CDS?
                      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                      For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                      www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                      • kevinds
                        Technician
                        • Feb 2019
                        • 10

                        #12
                        Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

                        Originally posted by copier tech
                        Ok lets start with the new issue, what is your error message?

                        How did you update the firmware, via CDS?
                        I don't know what the error message is. I went to check the IP address the printer grabbed from DHCP since I couldn't find it on the network.. On the printer, all of the network stuff is greyed out.. Can't even set a static IP.. The 'User Data List (Network) printout has IPv4 On, showing 0.0.0.0 but I can not set an IP address. So.. No IP access (yet?). Hopefully I'm just missing something.

                        The error shows
                        A red wrench with 'Finisher can not be used.' as the error message.

                        Can I get the error number from the on-screen menu?

                        I updated it using the Service Menu with Updater.

                        Settings/Registration button
                        Pressed 2+8 together
                        Pressed Settings/Registration again
                        Updater
                        Update Firmware

                        Now has 20180821.086021

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                        • kevinds
                          Technician
                          • Feb 2019
                          • 10

                          #13
                          Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

                          Originally posted by vigour
                          If it says limited function mode, check for finisher error code and fix that.
                          Red wrench might mean you have a blown controller

                          I would initialize all settings
                          Then run firmware upgrade again, possibly downgrading.

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                          • guitar9199
                            Service Manager

                            Site Contributor
                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 1097

                            #14
                            Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

                            This is why I always told my techs when I was a service manager that MMI clear was a "LAST RESORT"!

                            Canon's eSupport GRID could have saved you a bunch of time, and likely a few headaches.

                            ...when it comes to updating firmware... don't "Guess"! If you don't know, ask! You can very easily take an expensive copier, and turn it into an expensive paperweight!

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                            • kevinds
                              Technician
                              • Feb 2019
                              • 10

                              #15
                              Re: After Firmware Update the Job Status/Monitor is Missing on C5045

                              Originally posted by guitar9199
                              This is why I always told my techs when I was a service manager that MMI clear was a "LAST RESORT"!

                              Canon's eSupport GRID could have saved you a bunch of time, and likely a few headaches.

                              ...when it comes to updating firmware... don't "Guess"! If you don't know, ask! You can very easily take an expensive copier, and turn it into an expensive paperweight!
                              If I had access to it, it would have been great.. As it was I was already researching everything I could on it.

                              Otherwise I needed the firmware update for SMTP sending to work.. That fixed my issue immediately..

                              I am more annoyed that the MMI clear didn't fix the issue it was suggested to do it for.

                              Missing some license keys and one that simply doesn't work so $$&*#@*%^#, but otherwise I think it is working again.. Time to set everything up again. Argh


                              Side question.. Is it possible to get trial keys for Canon MEAP applications? Or is it full version or nothing? There is one I want to try but I don't know if it will actually work with my printer, before spending hundreds on something that won't. Already have to replace a couple...

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