just got emailed back from the guy and he said it would only work with color drums. so if it was something that extended drum life it should work on B&W machines
GPR-11 Drums Secret for longer life?
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The secret is revealed . I asked him if it would work on Konica and if it did I would let him know. Here it is. Any comments if I should try it?
Dear copyhere,
I'm not sure about the Konica machines. Basically what I discovered was that by breaking off a little tab on a black drum I can use it as a color drum. For my machines the black drum is $100 less than the colors. The drums for my machines come loaded with a little black toner in them, so I run about 50-75 copies to clean it out and the machine loads the color. Let me know if it works. Thanks.
- msiudyComment
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The secret is revealed . I asked him if it would work on Konica and if it did I would let him know. Here it is. Any comments if I should try it?
Dear copyhere,
I'm not sure about the Konica machines. Basically what I discovered was that by breaking off a little tab on a black drum I can use it as a color drum. For my machines the black drum is $100 less than the colors. The drums for my machines come loaded with a little black toner in them, so I run about 50-75 copies to clean it out and the machine loads the color. Let me know if it works. Thanks.
- msiudy
first off this eBay guy is a jerk/the e mail he sent, me he did not know that drums on a CLC are not cartridge drums.
also in a new cartridge unit u have 98% starter 2% toner/ how does he deplete the black starter, when he states that u do not have to open drum units. the starter is always in there , from one copy until u have an e020 code/ it breaks down but it is always there. he runs 50/75 copies, what a joke**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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you must deal with low volume customers/ if u think high volume /high end non- contract customers are going to wait for Canon to ship out drums, your dreaming, I work in a major east coast city , those customers want their drums replaced the same day/or within 4hrs. they have all inclusive contracts, the ones that do not, receive them the next day. Major Accounts do not have space and time to store old drums/**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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mind was a joke but the guy plainly says if you have a all inclusive contract not to bother with it ( he's trying to sell retail customers,end users also)and I believe he said it would only work where the drum and toner units were separated. I at the present time do not have color customers and the printers in this small town doesn't either. I believe I have read other color copiers being able to use the black drum units for color units also. and this info is free with a little searching. only reason I got involved in this post was mainly for the hell of it and possibaly might find a bit of new info.Comment
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mind was a joke but the guy plainly says if you have a all inclusive contract not to bother with it ( he's trying to sell retail customers,end users also)and I believe he said it would only work where the drum and toner units were separated. I at the present time do not have color customers and the printers in this small town doesn't either. I believe I have read other color copiers being able to use the black drum units for color units also. and this info is free with a little searching. only reason I got involved in this post was mainly for the hell of it and possibaly might find a bit of new info.
i would love to see the face on end users n inexperience tech's who break off that tab and put a black unit in a yellow slot/ turn on copier/ITB turns on to set gradation as with with any new drum inserted= black + yellow- here is a mess waiting to happen.
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Teckat he says he has been doing it and it is working for him. Is it possible that all the starter is the same just powered iron with no color. and what makes it black or yellow starter is the small addition of the color toner that comes pre mixed in it. Im thinking of trying it with an old drum and see what happens.Comment
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Teckat he says he has been doing it and it is working for him. Is it possible that all the starter is the same just powered iron with no color. and what makes it black or yellow starter is the small addition of the color toner that comes pre mixed in it. Im thinking of trying it with an old drum and see what happens.
starter (developer) is a small amt of toner with a large amount of iron & colored resin mixed = the heated colored resin is what fuses with toner to paper/ are u a trained tech ????
Toner and developer compositions including colored developer compositions are in wide use. These compositions normally contain toner particles consisting of resin and colorants, and carrier particles. The colorants usually are selected from cyan dyes or pigments, magenta dyes or pigments, yellow dyes or pigments, and mixtures thereof.**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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This guy is a TOOL....and anybody that buys into what this guy is proposing is an absolute fool!! And if you are a tech and believe any of this then you should turn in your tool bag!!! WHAT A WASTE OF TIME THIS THREAD IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Comment
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YOU GUYS ARE Soooooo wrong!
I never imagined I'd end up on some forum page, but my ebay posting is legit. "BS JUJU?" Please....
I've read the comments, and those of you who don't think this works are simply envious that you weren't smart enough to figure it out on your own, and you're inferiority complex won't let you admit you're wrong.
Please boys, put your fragile egos aside and think. The drum has no idea what color it is supposed to be, period. They do come charged with a starter charge of each color so when you put them in the machine you don't have to wait for it to load up with toner.
Now if you can get past your arrogant/high and mighty selves, you might save a little money.
That was my listing on ebay and I will go toe-to-toe with any of you who want to argue the merits and huge savings.
I haven't purchased a CMY drum in almost a year and I print perfect color, on THREE machines.
Here's how I discovered this. I was working late and had a black drum go bad. All I had on hand was an old Cyan drum, and I had a deadline to meet. I simply looked at the drum and figured out how to make a Cyan drum fit in the Black slot. It works perfectly.
So if you want to continue to crap on someone who is smarter than you and figured out a better way, go ahead. It's not my money you're wasting. Now who's the fool?
And hey, Canuck, I may indeed be a tool (which I doubt you could define without looking it up) but my info is legit and rock solid. Keep wasting your money, Little Tool.
It's really, really hard to be nice when so many of you misinformed people are posting opinions without having the facts. Go ahead, trash me. I spend $100 less per color drum than you do. EVERY SINGLE TIME I REPLACE ONE! So far I've saved about $2200, you?Comment
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A wager anyone?
You guys are REALLY funny. I am the guy who discovered this idea, and it has nothing to do with anything any of you have mentioned. It's so much simpler than that. Remember the old saying "Can't see the forest for the trees"?
If you can operate a pair of pliers and push the "copy" button on your machine then you can do this. It's that simple.
I will meet anyone, anywhere, and put $10,000 in cash on the table. I expect you to do the same. The bet is simple: I say it works, you say it doesn't. Put your money up. It could be any amount, I'll wager and you'll lose. Bring it on.Comment
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You guys are REALLY funny. I am the guy who discovered this idea, and it has nothing to do with anything any of you have mentioned. It's so much simpler than that. Remember the old saying "Can't see the forest for the trees"?
If you can operate a pair of pliers and push the "copy" button on your machine then you can do this. It's that simple.
I will meet anyone, anywhere, and put $10,000 in cash on the table. I expect you to do the same. The bet is simple: I say it works, you say it doesn't. Put your money up. It could be any amount, I'll wager and you'll lose. Bring it on.
since you have sent out a personal e-mail to me, I will respond this one time.
1.You have never seen or ever had in your possession $10,000.
2. No one cares about your crappy drum fix.
3.You use of the word ignorant to me in your e-mail, only shows that after 10months you have taken many steps backwards.
4.It only points to your lack of intelligence, your overblown ego, and another Jerk who makes claims on that worthless site called eBay.
Any tech who buys your fantasy fix, is just as ignorant as you are
You must have had a BIG ITCH between your legs, or you were just released from jail, to wake up and respond to a non-issue post.**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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