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  • msiudy
    Technician
    • Jan 2011
    • 47

    #76
    As added info... all the trays, by pass etc are properly set. The tray icon reads "12x18", and even though there is paper in there it will not light up the "OK" button in the lower right corner of the screen. I did notice that when I originally tried to put 12x18 in the by pass tray, I got a message that said to close the drawer. Maybe that sensor is out of adjustment. But the drawers should recognize the 12x18. Also note, there is no Fiery on this unit, if that makes any difference.

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    • teckat
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      • Jan 2010
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      #77
      Originally posted by msiudy
      As added info... all the trays, by pass etc are properly set. The tray icon reads "12x18", and even though there is paper in there it will not light up the "OK" button in the lower right corner of the screen. I did notice that when I originally tried to put 12x18 in the by pass tray, I got a message that said to close the drawer. Maybe that sensor is out of adjustment. But the drawers should recognize the 12x18. Also note, there is no Fiery on this unit, if that makes any difference.

      the Level of Paper in the Cassette must be detected/
      paper.JPG
      if u don't have lift-to sensors/ it will indicate load paper
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      • msiudy
        Technician
        • Jan 2011
        • 47

        #78
        Thanks teckat, but this one is way simpler... the machine had a M-1 Finisher on it, and apparently with that unit on the machine there is NO WAY to get it to print 12x18. I guess they don't want you crashing 80lb cover into the finisher. I took it off the machine and bingo, 12x18 prints! I just happened to notice that 11" paper come out to the finisher was a fairly tight fit, so I placed a 12" wide piece up there to see if it would fit. It does not. The part that was puzzling was that I had the output set to the machine tray "C".

        Anyone want to buy an M-1 Finisher? Ha! I got this machine from a closed business and there was only 13600 on the counter, total. It's brand new. Make me an offer, otherwise it's probably destined for the landfill since I have two N2 Saddle finishers. I'm in the metro Atlanta area.

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        • teckat
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          #79
          M1.JPG
          M1 Finisher will print 12x18
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          • msiudy
            Technician
            • Jan 2011
            • 47

            #80
            Man, you are Johnny-on-the-spot!

            My bad, all I know is I can print now.... it was probably a setting in the finisher section, which I didn't bother to check.

            You anywhere near Atlanta? I need you to come by and set me straight, and my machines too!

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            • teckat
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              #81
              Reminder= U can not select Heavy for Cassettes in 3200/3220/2620

              Bypass only for HEAVY COVER
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              • teckat
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                #82
                Originally posted by msiudy
                Man, you are Johnny-on-the-spot!

                My bad, all I know is I can print now.... it was probably a setting in the finisher section, which I didn't bother to check.

                You anywhere near Atlanta? I need you to come by and set me straight, and my machines too!

                216gsm, (80lb Cover) = Bypass only

                Paper Drawer(17 lb bond to 110 lb index (64 to 209 g/m2)
                Stack Bypass(17 lb bond to 140 lb index (64 to 253 g/m2)
                Paper Deck(optional) (17 to 110 lb index (64 to 209 g/m2)


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                • msiudy
                  Technician
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 47

                  #83
                  Okay, hopefully this is that last dopey question of the day.... When I print 12x18 the image only prints 8.5x11, and is positioned to the front and left (operators side) of the sheet. Somewhere there is a setting to change but I'm out of ideas. The image is not reduced, it's just shifted forward and left (op side). If you took an 8.5x11 sheet and put it on the 12 x 18 sheet, it would be aligned along the op side and the lead edge, with the 8.5 running along the 12" lead edge and the 11 running down the 18" length. WTF? The image that prints is a section of 8.5x11 that would/should be on the tail edge of the 12x18, along the op side.

                  For some reason it's grabbing only an 8.5x11 section of the art file and then positioning to the lead edge on the op side.

                  I laid a sheet on the glass and it prints the entire 12x18. It's when I send the file that it cuts it off and positions it as mentioned.

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                  • teckat
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                    #84
                    what print driver are u using ?
                    what program are u printing from ?




                    an add on about 12x18
                    The following types of paper are output to the center output tray of the main unit and not to the Output Tray of the finisher:
                    - 12 5/8" x 17 11/16" (320 mm x 450 mm) paper, envelopes, tracing paper,
                    transparencies, labels, tab paper, and Washi (Japanese paper).

                    Finishing modes cannot be set if you are using 12" x 18" (305 mm x 457 mm) or
                    12 5/8" x 17 11/16" (320 mm x 450 mm) paper.
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                    • charm5496
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                      • Apr 2008
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                      #85
                      reading back on a couple of your post I would look at your print driver. Sounds like you are using the wrong one. Couldn't print with the finisher attached??? Now you can't print your entire image. Do you have an imagepass attached to this machine or are you connected straight into the copier?
                      Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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                      • msiudy
                        Technician
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 47

                        #86
                        Canon irc3200 PCL5c. It's the same one I use for my other two machines, a 3220 and another 3200. I also have Fiery's on the other two, but do not always use that driver.

                        I usually print from PDF's, InDesign or Illustrator. In this case, PDF and Illustrator. I am going to put this doc in a InDesign doc and see what happens.

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                        • charm5496
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                          #87
                          Just a reminder that the driver is different for the 3200 and 3220 regardless if you are using a fiery or not.
                          Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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                          • msiudy
                            Technician
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 47

                            #88
                            Charm, it would print everything but the 12x18 with finisher on it. The machine is on a network.

                            Printed from InDesign, same thing. Changed the driver to Canon irc3200 C1-PCL5c, same thing...

                            Just switched it to the Fiery driver, and... it printed the whole sheet. Even though there isn't a Fiery on this machine. So, I guess that means I probably need to load a new driver huh? Which one is best for a machine with no Fiery unit?

                            It's beginning to look like I need to "blow up" my driver installs and start over. Which drivers are best for Fiery, standard 3200 and standard 3220? If I understand what you're saying I should have three separate drivers, set up as three different printers. Which actually means I will end up with 5 printers to choose from when printing. One each of the regular driver for each machine, and two Fiery printers for the two that have Fiery's.

                            Damn, what ever happened to "just click print"? Ha! (That's an old inside joke between me and the prepress department at an old job. Everyone seems to think you can "just click print" and things magically appear!)

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                            • teckat
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                              #89
                              Canon U.S.A. : Support & Drivers : Color imageRUNNER C3200

                              Canon U.S.A. : Support & Drivers : Color imageRUNNER C2620/C3220

                              Canon U.S.A. : Support & Drivers : imagePASS-C1

                              http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/office/imagepass_controllers/imagepass_c2/imagepass_c2# DriversAndSoftware
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                              • charm5496
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                                • Apr 2008
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                                #90
                                teckat gave you the links to the drivers. If you have a 3220 with a fiery C1 then you can load the PS or PCL for the 3220-C1. Same thing goes for the 3200 with a fiery. If you have a fiery use the fiery drivers if the unit does not have a fiery then use the 3200 or 3220 PCL or PS.

                                You really shouldn't be using the non fiery drivers on the fiery driven devices and vice versa.
                                Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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