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  • Canuck
    Tech Specialist

    1,000+ Posts
    • Nov 2007
    • 1713

    #76
    Originally posted by Magebomba
    i heard the same thing (WD40 or triflow) from my panasonic training instructer. Would not let myself believe that LOL. ima give it a shot soon.
    Any of you guys hear of sel-sol? it actually has an oily feel to it, but that is what i have always used. if anyone has used both pls say what works better.
    i already have a tube of tranny fluid in my kit too, went right out and got some after reading this post the first time. thanks for the tips guys!
    I have used sel-sol....works temporary. I f you want to soften rubber rolls use brake fluid...it has oils in it to soften the rubber. Thats why cars use it..keeps seals in master cylinder and wheel cylinders soft. Great on tires also...prevents sidewalls from cracking

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    • SCREWTAPE
      East Coast Imaging

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      2,500+ Posts
      • Jan 2009
      • 3396

      #77
      Here's a tip on a C5051

      Do not attempt to pull off connectors when changing film unit, the heater will crack.
      Its a quite expensive piece. Check the snap shots of what I'm talking about.
      Attached Files

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      • teckat
        Field Supervisor

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        10,000+ Posts
        • Jan 2010
        • 16083

        #78



        OUCH'
        **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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        • SCREWTAPE
          East Coast Imaging

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          • Jan 2009
          • 3396

          #79
          Yea $357.00
          And that's dealer cost.
          Canon, you gotta love them.

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          • D_L_P
            Self Employed

            1,000+ Posts
            • Oct 2009
            • 1196

            #80
            Had another ir7105 with Saddle Finisher V1 having an intermittent E540 (Tray A lift motor). Turned out to be the switching regulating PCB for both of them (not mentioned as a possible cause in the manual).

            Both were intermittent and seemed to throw the code often (but not always) when brought out of sleep mode or when 1st turned on. The 1st one we tried the sensor, motor, and main controller, but when we learned about the sleep mode thing it led us to the switching regulator. The second one we went right for the switching regulator and been working fine for couple weeks now.

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            • SCREWTAPE
              East Coast Imaging

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              • Jan 2009
              • 3396

              #81
              Originally posted by D_L_P
              Had another ir7105 with Saddle Finisher V1 having an intermittent E540 (Tray A lift motor). Turned out to be the switching regulating PCB for both of them (not mentioned as a possible cause in the manual).

              Both were intermittent and seemed to throw the code often (but not always) when brought out of sleep mode or when 1st turned on. The 1st one we tried the sensor, motor, and main controller, but when we learned about the sleep mode thing it led us to the switching regulator. The second one we went right for the switching regulator and been working fine for couple weeks now.
              I had a slimilar issue except I was getting a E551 with the E540 and E542.
              In my case I had to replace the fuse PCB and the regulator.

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              • Tricky
                Field Supervisor

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                • Apr 2009
                • 2621

                #82
                Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
                I must say, I had a tech that told me once that WD40 was good to use on pick up rollers and feed roller plus vertical path rollers. He said it rejuvenated the rubber. I was skeptic with his tactic, but I tried it on a pair of some used feed rollers and vertical path rollers and it did what he said it would do. A little dab of WD40 on a rag and as rub it in it rejuvenates the rubber. You must rub it in to point where as you can feel the rubber getting sticky, it does not cause the rubber to be slippery and it doesn't stain paper either. It dries up as you rub it into the rubber and gives it that new rubber feel. Unlike alcohol, which dries up the rubber, in some circumstances WD40 on rubber such feed, pick up, and vertical path rollers has help me. To those who might be skeptic, try it first on some used parts such as, feed, pick up, and vertical path rollers. Trust me it works.
                What about the rubber rollers inside transfer belt assemblies, I tend to use alcohol on these?

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                • teckat
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                  • Jan 2010
                  • 16083

                  #83
                  alcohol/ no no on rubber/ it dries out rubber
                  **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                  • smiley
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 616

                    #84
                    try citrus oil in rubber roller of the itb.
                    there is no glory without sacrifice

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                    • mrfixit51
                      Lead Service Technician

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1975

                      #85
                      Fuser pressure roller longevity...

                      Something we have been doing for about 6 years to increase the life of pressure rollers is to peen the shaft of the roller to create a tighter fit between the shaft and the inner race of the bearings. You all have seen the rollers that failed because the shaft spins inside the bearing, chewing up the shaft. Some people actually lubricate the shafts, which seems counter productive to the bearing in the first place.

                      My first attempt was to use thread locking compound, Loctite, to try to keep the shafts from spinning in the bearing. It worked better than bare shafts did, but I was still not happy. Next I decided to go "old school" on these rollers. Peening is an old metal workers trick. Take a set punch and hammer, and make three "dents" in the shaft equally spaced around the diameter of the shaft. You will now need to drive the bearing on the shaft as the effective "O.D." of the shaft has increased. It is best to use an old bearing or a socket wrench socket to use as a drift, so you don't damage the bearing. This effectively makes the bearing's inner race do the rotational duties, not the pressure roller shaft.

                      We do this on field rebuilds as well as when setting up a brand new copier. It takes longer during the setups, but pays dividends in time later on in increased life of the pressure roller.
                      "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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                      • D_L_P
                        Self Employed

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1196

                        #86
                        Excellent idea! +rep

                        I'll be out in my garage tonight hammering all my LFR's. Customers always seem to give me the fish-eye when they hear me hammering something in the office!

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                        • teckat
                          Field Supervisor

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                          • Jan 2010
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                          #87
                          If I carry a punch and hammer (Burglar Tools) through a metal detector in NYC/ I'll have to answer at least 20 questions at the gate/ It's bad enough with a backpack-tool case/ meter/loose wires/ & handcart/ to get through.

                          whoo wah'
                          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                          • mrfixit51
                            Lead Service Technician

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1975

                            #88
                            Originally posted by teckat
                            If I carry a punch and hammer (Burglar Tools) through a metal detector in NYC/ I'll have to answer at least 20 questions at the gate/ It's bad enough with a backpack-tool case/ meter/loose wires/ & handcart/ to get through.

                            whoo wah'
                            Your mileage may vary!

                            I used to service a state prison, many moons ago, and had to inventory every tool in, and out, of the facility. I quickly put together a minimalist service case just for that account.
                            Last edited by mrfixit51; 04-20-2010, 01:45 PM.
                            "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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                            • davidj7
                              Service Manager

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                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1107

                              #89
                              i usually take the lower roller to a workshop where they put on a metal cylinder over the shaft and the lower roller shaft is as good as new and costs me $1 per side.
                              a machine is only as good as your tech : source:screwtape ; the scary one

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                              • SCREWTAPE
                                East Coast Imaging

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                                • Jan 2009
                                • 3396

                                #90
                                Registration issues on IRC3200,3220,4080,5180

                                Tips on how to resolve registration issues.

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