HD Cloning

[Gerhard]

Hi Guys

I am having lots of hard drives failing on me. Ir 2270/2870. We normally buy generic(normal IDE) hard drives and clone them using Nortons Ghost program.( can not modify ift files)

This procedure takes a lot of time and preparation. I thought maybe you guys might have an alternative way of cloning the hard drives.

All input welcome

Regards

Gerhard

[charm5496]

We don't because the cost to pay someone to sit and clone the HDD is not worth the savings. Pay the $100 that NWRS or some other reputable company charges and eliminate the head ache. Plus after you install the cloned drive you now have to cross your fingers that you don't create a version mismatch on the machine you are installing it in. Keep your SST files up to date and you will not have any issues initializing the new HDD's and you will save yourself a lot of time and headaches.

[teckat]

Hi Guys

I am having lots of hard drives failing on me. Ir 2270/2870. We normally buy generic(normal IDE) hard drives and clone them using Nortons Ghost program.( can not modify ift files)

This procedure takes a lot of time and preparation. I thought maybe you guys might have an alternative way of cloning the hard drives.

All input welcome

Regards

Gerhard

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[RRodgers]

We use a program called "drive copy" fits on a floppy and is pretty quick. Even sees sata drives. One of the reasons i believe the drives fail is because they are usually on 24/7 and rarely are cooled properly. When i replace a drive i usually put a cooler on it. Rarely have one give me problems after that.

[Gerhard]

Hi RRodgers

The cooler you refer to is that the same cooler you would use in a desktop (fan mounted in plastic bracket that mounts on HD). The drive copy app that you refer to is it freely availible (net).

Thanx ALL for input

Regards

G

[tinnyjay]

The best way to clone HDD,is to clone with Acronis True Image 2009 or 2010.
There is only one small problem!
When you use hdd in computer,you have 3 ways for combinations,master,slave and cable select.Copiers uses a special combination (i've seen @ toshiba's hdd).So,you remember jumpers from original hdd and after you clone a new one,set jumpers like original hdd,or you have to try all possible combinations,till copier will turn on.

[teckat]

[QUOTE] From Google



Temperatures exceeding 100 degrees Fahrenheit may not be damaging to disk drives, according to new research by Google engineers which casts doubt on previous findings linking heat to elevated failure rates.
After studying five years worth of monitoring statistics from Google's massive data centers, researchers say they could find no consistent pattern linking failure rates to high temperatures or high utilization levels.



The most notorious cause of hard disk failure is a head crash, where the internal read-and-write head of the device touches a platter, or a magnetic data storage surface. A head crash usually incurs severe data loss, and data recovery attempts may cause further damage if not done by a specialist with proper equipment. Hard drive platters are coated with an extremely thin layer of non-electrostatic lubricant, so that the read-and-write head will simply glance off the surface of the platter should a collision occur. However, this head hovers mere nanometers from the platter's surface which makes a collision an acknowledged risk. Another cause of failure is a faulty air filter. The air filters on today's hard drives equalize the atmospheric pressure and moisture between the hard drive enclosure and its outside environment. If the filter fails to capture a dust particle, the particle can land on the platter, causing a head crash if the head happens to sweep over it. After a hard drive crash, each particle from the damaged platter and head media can cause a bad sector. These, in addition to platter damage, will quickly render a hard drive useless. A hard drive also includes controller electronics, which occasionally fail. In such cases, it may be possible to recover all data.
Since hard drives are mechanical devices, they will all eventually fail. While some may not fail prematurely, many hard drives simply fail because of worn out parts. Many hard drive manufacturers include a Mean Time Between Failures figure on product packaging or in promotional literature. These are calculated by constantly running samples of the drive for a short amount of time, analyzing the resultant wear and tear upon the physical components of the drive, and extrapolating to provide a reasonable estimate of its lifespan. Since this fails to account for phenomena such as the aforementioned head crash, external trauma (dropping or collision), power surges, and so forth, the Mean Time Between Failures number is not generally regarded as an accurate estimate of a drive's lifespan. Hard drive failures tend to follow the concept of the bathtub curve. Hard drives typically fail within a short time if there is a defect present from manufacturing. If a hard drive proves reliable for a period of a few months after installation, the hard drive has a significantly greater chance of remaining reliable. Therefore, even if a hard drive is subjected to several years of heavy daily use, it may not show any notable signs of wear unless closely inspected. On the other hand, a hard drive can fail at any time in many different situations.

[bojans]

I heard from my friend that he was using Hiren's BootCD to make clones. I never did, but he says there are a lot of options (original size, etc...) and he had success with Canon hdd.

[teckat]

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[nivssluck]

Hi Guys

I am having lots of hard drives failing on me. Ir 2270/2870. We normally buy generic(normal IDE) hard drives and clone them using Nortons Ghost program.( can not modify ift files)

This procedure takes a lot of time and preparation. I thought maybe you guys might have an alternative way of cloning the hard drives.

All input welcome

Regards

Gerhard

I used Acronis before but it's not reliable. SST is 100% reliable. I am using sst 3.35e and hitachi hdd for this model with 0% problem at all.

[tinnyjay]

I used Acronis before but it's not reliable. SST is 100% reliable. I am using sst 3.35e and hitachi hdd for this model with 0% problem at all.

You are right,but i think we are talking when SST misses.

[mezerwi]

Well, i agree with Gerhard, ir2870 do frequently fail. Recently it happen to my 2870, with all my data inside it. Usually, ive scanned all my customer notes inside mailbox, but then when the HDD fail, all gone...
When the technician come, they change the mainboard and the hdd together. They put back the old counter the, but it happen to be resetted. From 70++k to 3k... Well, im totally happy with it.

[fusker]

This can be done with "sector per track" method of copying, this mean, every sector will be moved from the source to the target,
most of clone software is used "track per cluster", its mean, every track on the HDD will move to cluster, this will the size is mismatch with the source, because windows file system using different size for cluster 1MB=1024KB, most of copier machine using true size 1MB=1000KB,,,