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  • andalasgt
    Technician
    • Oct 2010
    • 49

    #1

    [Misc] Black Spots

    Hi,
    what is caused the dirty drum (there are black spots on the surface of drum), as result there are black spots on the paper of copied.
    Thank's
  • ExXeroid
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Jul 2010
    • 56

    #2
    Foreign matter on drum surface. Bad cleaning blade. Maybe if you give us a Model # we can help more.

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    • andalasgt
      Technician
      • Oct 2010
      • 49

      #3
      yes, there is toner dots on drum surface. How/why toner dots located on drum surface?

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      • ExXeroid
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Jul 2010
        • 56

        #4
        Does the machine use developer? Maybe developer and toner are clumping and sticking to the drum. What is the condition of the cleaning blade? Maybe you should change the drum and developer at the same time.

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        • andalasgt
          Technician
          • Oct 2010
          • 49

          #5
          the machine is canon ir5000.
          thank's. I would give you a model tomorrow.

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          • badboys
            Technician
            • Oct 2010
            • 69

            #6
            ..seems like the tungsten/corona wire (primary unit) is arching. Replace the wire frequently if you want the drum to last longer.I use Autosol paste to polish drum surface instead of rock stone brownish powder.(IR5000 drum lifespan = 5millions copies)

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            • mrfixit51
              Lead Service Technician

              1,000+ Posts
              • Oct 2008
              • 1975

              #7
              We call them "pepper spots"...

              Originally posted by andalasgt
              Hi,
              what is caused the dirty drum (there are black spots on the surface of drum), as result there are black spots on the paper of copied.
              Thank's
              After reading to the bottom of the postings, I think I have figured out what you are describing, and Badboys has pointed you in the right direction. You either need to replace your primary charge corona, or rewire it, and clean the grid wires with clean water on a cloth. This should bring an end to your spots.

              This is easy enough to diagnose, if the tenth copy looks worse than the first,,, bingo, you have pepper spots!
              "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

                Site Contributor
                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 22963

                #8
                If the primary has been arcing there will be rows of tiny pinholes in the ASi drum coating. There is no fixing a drum like that. It's been a while since I ordered one of these drums but I seem to recall a price of $3K. If it has been arcing you'd better replace the primary too.

                Yep: Canon ImageRunner 5000I Drums
                =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • SCREWTAPE
                  East Coast Imaging

                  Site Contributor
                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3396

                  #9
                  Buff the drum. What kind of enviroment is this machine is in.

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                  • andalasgt
                    Technician
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 49

                    #10
                    thank's for replies. Here I give you a model test print of blank copy on a4.
                    Attached Files

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                    • SCREWTAPE
                      East Coast Imaging

                      Site Contributor
                      2,500+ Posts
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 3396

                      #11
                      What kind of print out is this?

                      Is this a test print from service mode?

                      A PG type 4 is a good one to use for this kind of issue.

                      Do you see the spots on the drum?

                      You can pull out the developer and check the drum for spots.

                      Keep your filters clean and free of dust, especially for the waste toner cleaning area of the AP kit.

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                      • andalasgt
                        Technician
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 49

                        #12
                        Yes, it was printed in service mode. I see the spots on drum. Drum was polished, but after about 250 copies it's coming back.

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                        • teckat
                          Field Supervisor

                          Site Contributor
                          10,000+ Posts
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 16083

                          #13
                          Originally posted by andalasgt
                          yes, it was printed in service mode. I see the spots on drum. Drum was polished, but after about 250 copies it's coming back.

                          change the filters/ check duct seals/
                          clean fan duct of dirty filters.


                          check primary post or replace primary unit


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