Canon CLC3200 out of focus copies.

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  • tinnyjay
    Senior Tech

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    • Oct 2009
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    #31
    Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
    I do not know why, I never had this problem.
    I am thinking about firmware.(D-Con,M-Con cleared allready)
    You think i am right?
    "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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    • teckat
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      #32
      Originally posted by tinnyjay
      I am thinking about firmware.(D-Con,M-Con cleared allready)
      You think i am right?

      u should have not cleared RCON or DCON/ with out printing out the P-PRINT settings .
      if u do not have the Original papers from under the door cover/ your machine is a mess by now-

      TP.JPG
      SEE BELOW FOR TEST SETTINGS/OPERATIONS

      TEST PRINT MODE>LEVEL 1
      COPIER>TEST<PG>

      Used to make test print settings.
      TYPE
      Performs test print when test print type number is entered and start key is
      turned ON. (This setting must always be restored to 0 after making test
      print.)
      0: Normal print

      Type of test print for each number entered for PG>TYPE
      Entered number Description Entered number Description
      0= Image from CCD (normal print)
      1= For development
      2= For development
      3= For development
      4= 16 gradations
      5= Full-sheet half tones
      6= Grid
      7= For development
      8= For development
      9= For development
      10= MCYBk horizontal stripes
      11= For development
      12= YMCBk 64 gradations
      13= For development
      14= Full-color 16 gradations
      15= to 100 For development

      TXPH
      Used to set image mode during test print output.

      0: Text mode
      1: Photo mode
      2: Automatic mode
      3: Text/photo/map mode
      4: Photographic printing paper photo mode
      5: Printed photo mode
      6: Text/photo mode
      7: Black and white text mode
      Note This setting is only valid for test prints

      THRU
      Used to select whether to use image compensation table during test print output.
      0: ON (Use), 1: OFF (Don’t use)

      DENS-Y, DENS-M, DENS-C, DENS-K
      Used to adjust density of each color for test prints (TYPE = 5).
      0 to 255: Increasing the value increases the density.

      COLOR-Y, COLOR-M, COLOR-C, COLOR-K
      Used to set output of each color for each TYPE.
      For example, to set single-color M output, set “COLOR-M = 1”, and make
      the other settings 0 (only single colors can be output).
      0: Don’t output, 1: Output


      PG-PICK
      Used to select output level during test print output.
      1: Cassette 1
      2: Cassette 2
      3: Cassette 3
      4: Cassette 4
      5 to 6: Not used
      7: Side deck
      8: Manual feed
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      • Canuck
        Tech Specialist

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        • Nov 2007
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        #33
        Lost me....he said CLC3200 and everyone is talking IRC3200

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        • SCREWTAPE
          East Coast Imaging

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          #34
          Originally posted by Canuck
          Lost me....he said CLC3200 and everyone is talking IRC3200
          Same machine I believe.

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          • tinnyjay
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            #35
            Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
            Same machine I believe.
            You know there is not any difference except C1 controller.

            But the problem is that my crazy copier dont work still again
            "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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            • teckat
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              #36
              Originally posted by tinnyjay
              You know there is not any difference except C1 controller.

              But the problem is that my crazy copier dont work still again


              Bottom line on this series of printers/ do a complete interior gut cleaning/ inspect all drive gears/ & assembly's/ make a list of procedures/ check off the completed- u do a process of elimination , so u don't keep repeating yourself
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              • tinnyjay
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                #37
                Originally posted by teckat
                Bottom line on this series of printers/ do a complete interior gut cleaning/ inspect all drive gears/ & assembly's/ make a list of procedures/ check off the completed- u do a process of elimination , so u don't keep repeating yourself
                Teckat,you must believe.I have clean all parts of it.
                When i make a test of Laser in Service Mode,it shows NG!
                There is no problem with codes i believe,because i found in the cover door old codes,restore them and still the same thing.
                There are 3 things cause this : Lasers,boards,or firmware.
                I can not prove anyone at this moment,because i dont have them.
                "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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                • SCREWTAPE
                  East Coast Imaging

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by tinnyjay
                  Lasers,boards,or firmware.
                  I can not prove anyone at this moment,because i dont have them.
                  I guess you won't know then until you get a hold of those parts.

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                  • tinnyjay
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
                    I guess you won't know then until you get a hold of those parts.
                    Thats right
                    "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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                    • teckat
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by tinnyjay
                      Teckat,you must believe.I have clean all parts of it.
                      When i make a test of Laser in Service Mode,it shows NG!
                      There is no problem with codes i believe,because i found in the cover door old codes,restore them and still the same thing.
                      There are 3 things cause this : Lasers,boards,or firmware.
                      I can not prove anyone at this moment,because i dont have them.

                      The reason it pops a NG is because the Sub-Scan is not aligned to main scan

                      Post some PG6 AND PG10 Prints

                      SUB-SCAN ISSUES are usually not a Laser Issue- but a Mechanical problem

                      just re-looked at your first post with that image/ that is a SUB-SCAN ISSUE (PAPER FEED DIRECTION) YOUR MAIN SCAN IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE-


                      Both of these Machines have that ITB GEAR ASSBLY /ITB BELT DRIVE UNIT -Swing Guide gear unit-that craps out with stripped gears/u need to remove it -to inspect those helical gears
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                      • Fer
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                        • Nov 2009
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                        #41
                        I don't believe it. I had such a problem with 3220. Reseated the lasers, reset the laser lens to home position. Tried other ITB assy, other patch sensor en reset dc-con several times. measured wiring of patch sensor. Eventually called Canon tech to replace dccon, but seemed that the M laser wasn't seated properly, so check the guides that hold the lasers in place.

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                        • teckat
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Fer
                          I don't believe it. I had such a problem with 3220. Reseated the lasers, reset the laser lens to home position. Tried other ITB assy, other patch sensor en reset dc-con several times. measured wiring of patch sensor. Eventually called Canon tech to replace dccon, but seemed that the M laser wasn't seated properly, so check the guides that hold the lasers in place.

                          what don't u believe/ just look at the posted print in first post/ this is not only a M Issue / it is all colors in sub scan/
                          Laser re-alignment is for MAIN SCAN Issues

                          U have to Pull out that ITB GEAR DRIVE UNIT on right side machine frame to inspect it/ u can not always view helical gear wear from the side
                          **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                          • tinnyjay
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by teckat

                            what don't u believe/ just look at the posted print in first post/ this is not only a M Issue / it is all colors in sub scan/
                            Laser re-alignment is for MAIN SCAN Issues

                            U have to Pull out that ITB GEAR DRIVE UNIT on right side machine frame to inspect it/ u can not always view helical gear wear from the side
                            I read the Technical Publication you gave me about ITB gears and all gears are changed like in Tech Pub.
                            How its possible i can't print in Copier-Test-PG-Test.
                            Tried all possible tests from 1-100 and nothing happens.(you must be sure i know how to do this).

                            What can cause this?

                            In fact i can not access C1 controller (i dont know the problem) to print a PS Test.
                            "Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"

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                            • teckat
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by tinnyjay
                              I read the Technical Publication you gave me about ITB gears and all gears are changed like in Tech Pub.
                              How its possible i can't print in Copier-Test-PG-Test.
                              Tried all possible tests from 1-100 and nothing happens.(you must be sure i know how to do this).

                              What can cause this?

                              In fact i can not access C1 controller (i dont know the problem) to print a PS Test.


                              when u press for a PG6 , do u receive a message on control panel why it will not print/
                              so this means u can not print out the P Prints/User Data prints ALSO ??





                              C3200 C3220 Laser issues
                              Problems associated with the lasers.


                              Check the connections to the DC Controller. The Laser connectors are dove tail type. If the dove tails are not positioned in the groove, the connection to the DC Controller may be poor. Re-seat the connector by pressing the dove tails into the grooves while inserting the connector.
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                              • teckat
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                                #45
                                DC.JPG
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