iR4570 - fixing film jam

[Canuck]

Is machine jamming or error? A film that is not rotating up to speed will give you an E-007 film rotation error before it jams. If the machine doesn't error then what is jam code? Probably sticky diverter bumper pads on door as stated. Post the jam code

[charm5496]

I agree with DLP. The fuser oil would run and it is not made for the Canon IR-4570.

[rosaro75]

i run 80k copies after putting fuser oil. i am not telling this is the solution. i said this is also solution. clc1180 fuser oil have high viscosity. so it may slow down the rotation. but dc12 is low viscosity and it non sticky on plastic and teflon. so it run smoothly. i don't know about ricoh af2238c fuser oil.

[mrfixit51]

I find it easiest to use the fixing film assembly, and if tearing persists, a new pressure roller and bushings. Don't forget about the cleaning roller, if left in to long, accumulated toner can cause the roller to lodge against the pressure roller causing problems...

I know parts cost money, but don't forget about your time,,, time is money too. And the next customer will see you sooner if you are not tied up on the previous call trying to save every cent possible. They will be happier for the quicker response time...

[y_us1982]

Is machine jamming or error? A film that is not rotating up to speed will give you an E-007 film rotation error before it jams. If the machine doesn't error then what is jam code? Probably sticky diverter bumper pads on door as stated. Post the jam code

the jam code 0107,010A and 0A01. 0107 is the highest rank.

[y_us1982]

Sorry, but that grease will not work. Thermal grease is different from high-temp grease. The processor grease is actually more of a paste designed to transfer heat, which will dry out pretty fast. The grease in fusers is a high-temp grease designed operate in high temperatures, which won't breakdown or dry out as fast.

You would be better off going to the local auto parts store and using the hight-temp grease designed for brakes if you don't want to shell out the $$ to get it from Canon. But I'd think it's cheaper to buy the good stuff from Canon then make several trips...

yeah, at last i found the thermal grease. now i'm testing using both grease and fuser oil which 1 have long lifespan. thanks everybody...

[Canuck]

the jam code 0107,010A and 0A01. 0107 is the highest rank.

Mostly 0107 you say? That is late to fuser delivery sensor. Check the actuator inside the fuser...plastic warps and i've seen paper pass right over the actuator. Any E-007 errors logged? Also take a look at registration sensor actuator before registration roll. If worn badly(and they do) it will set up timing jams,causing reg clutch to turn on late and delaying transport to fuser. Makes it thru the reg timing window, but not the fixing sensor .

[y_us1982]

Mostly 0107 you say? That is late to fuser delivery sensor. Check the actuator inside the fuser...plastic warps and i've seen paper pass right over the actuator. Any E-007 errors logged? Also take a look at registration sensor actuator before registration roll. If worn badly(and they do) it will set up timing jams,causing reg clutch to turn on late and delaying transport to fuser. Makes it thru the reg timing window, but not the fixing sensor .

there's no e007 errors logged. i've also checked the reg sensor and it all ok. since i used the thermal grease last week, there's no more complaint from customer until today. hope the grease will do perfectly...

[linuxxpwin]

I had a case where the fixing film assembly was swollen from the heat and replacing the film did not well for me, changing the entire fixing film ass,y did my trick, I never throw away the used ones, they very often comes in handy just friday had to use, the heating element for another machine.

if there is to much grease, the films tends not to rotate, u need a grease that can keep up with the temp and run sot when heated.

[Canuck]

Mrfixit hit the nail on the head, & speaking from experience it’s not worth replacing the fixing film (film only) to much grease will affect the temp & cause random E001 codes too little & the film will not rotate smoothly causing jams, smudging etc. etc. etc.
The genuine Canon fixing film assy’s last for at least 250k & they aren’t even that expensive! I have seen many do 500k. Replace the cleaning/heat sink roller as soon as it becomes soiled will prolong the life of the film also.

Exactly

[Matoku]

How about the uniflor 8172 grease? but i still look for this grease in the market.
I mean to lubricate the fixing film

[y_us1982]

is it true that ir4570 had duplex problem when running on a4 size(70gsm)?

[teckat]

is it true that ir4570 had duplex problem when running on a4 size(70gsm)?

Product : imageRUNNER 2230 / 2270 / 2830 / 2870 / 3530 / 3570 / 4570 Title : Where is the CL6 Duplex Clutch Located in the iR3570 & iR4570?
Where is the CL6 duplex clutch located in the iR3570 & iR4570?

Answer :
There is not a CL6 duplex clutch in the iR3530, iR3570 & iR4570. This is not meant to be a trick question. It is easy to misinterpret the documentation regarding this clutch in the parts Catalog. The following parts catalog pages show the confusion. Neither page indicates which Main Drive Assembly is for which machines. (Note: The words in red are not listed in the printed catalog.)

If you are having a duplex drive problem on an iR3530, 3570 and iR4570 look to the M10 Duplex Drive Motor located on Figure 261. The M10 stepper motor is part of the Fixing Paper Delivery Drive Assembly.



Check if the Duplex Guide on the 3 Way Unit is damaged or not mounted correctly.
Duplex.jpg

[y_us1982]

[B]
If you are having a duplex drive problem on an iR3530, 3570 and iR4570 look to the M10 Duplex Drive Motor located on Figure 261. The M10 stepper motor is part of the Fixing Paper Delivery Drive Assembly.

seems like the duplex guide don't have any problem. the single side print was ok, but after the paper across the duplex unit to print the second side, the paper will jam at the drum unit before reach the fixing assy. the paper will look like a curve and it goes right inside the drum made it stuck. i wonder if the paper get too hot when it first across the fixing assy make the paper get a curve.

[wil chow]

yr film is original or compatible ?