Canon IR 5000 Hard Disk Clone - Help Required

[ymmtech]

I would suggest mfdavesh to use 80GB hdd. For a used hdd, will require to check its "fitness for machine". This require much longer time to check its SMART status, such as raw error rate, reallocated sector count,..And scan disk surface,check number of sectors with respond time >50 mSec,..........

I only suggest user to clone hdd when when firmware unavailable.(some one give him the firmware and story end).

"most of them said its crap and end up wasting your time."

Go through the "Fitness" scan, use only the "pass" hdd.

"Or you may order hardisk clone tool to clone hardisk directly using the tool without through computer "

Save your money.

For me I use SST mainly to write boot rom and/or read/write ram data. For the hdd, always using cloning method. The irxx00 image can transfer to hdd through USB port less the a minute.

[gaurarvind]

Thank you very much Gensys,
Yes I know the risk of destroying Disk and Data
I started with a fresh Disk of 80GB
used Acronic True Image Server for cloning both Hard Disks
it works fine, shows all of the partitions of source were cloned to target disk
when I Use new Disk, Machine starts, half of the progress bar fills and then machine gives
hard disk error

So I will try Active BootCD this evening

Use a Hardware device like Diskjocky to copy this type of HD.It works.

[ymmtech]

Miss the important point, is pramod idea help?

when I Use new Disk, Machine starts, half of the progress bar fills and then machine gives hard disk error

Try swapping the boot rom. Is it OK?
Check the boot rom type, or your machine got problem somewhere?

[mfdarvesh]

My apologies, I misunderstood. I thought you had 2 dead copier hard drives, not one hard drive between the 2 copiers that worked. Clone away, if you can figure it out. I have knowledge of cloning, but never have applied it to copiers. I don't want to learn, as I have the tools needed to accomplish the task the proper way...

Good luck in your endeavor!

Thank you very much, yes i have another working hard drive, I don't have Cannon SST with me, and in Pakistan I am unable to find, can you help me or if you have, share with me?

have u check ram it should be at least 192 mb as you said Machine starts, Canon logo displayed and half of progress bars fills ,it seems ram prob 128 mb ,because Acronis True Image works .

I remove HD from Machine and used computer to HD with new one, machine is OK with old HD

I would suggest mfdavesh to use 80GB hdd. For a used hdd, will require to check its "fitness for machine". This require much longer time to check its SMART status, such as raw error rate, reallocated sector count,..And scan disk surface,check number of sectors with respond time >50 mSec,..........

I only suggest user to clone hdd when when firmware unavailable.(some one give him the firmware and story end).

"most of them said its crap and end up wasting your time."

Go through the "Fitness" scan, use only the "pass" hdd.

"Or you may order hardisk clone tool to clone hardisk directly using the tool without through computer "

Save your money.

For me I use SST mainly to write boot rom and/or read/write ram data. For the hdd, always using cloning method. The irxx00 image can transfer to hdd through USB port less the a minute.

Please share that SST with me? May I be too lucky (mfdarvesh@hotmail.com)

Use a Hardware device like Diskjocky to copy this type of HD.It works.

Okay, will try to search.

Miss the important point, is pramod idea help?
Try swapping the boot rom. Is it OK?
Check the boot rom type, or your machine got problem somewhere?

Where is that boot rom?

[D_L_P]

Another thing to check, are you sure you have 2 ir5000's? Depending on the version of the main controller, there is a 5000/5000n and a 5000d/5000dn which look identical but take different system software. I believe the only way to tell them apart is with the SST or possibly a sticker on the inside of the door.

[mfdarvesh]

Another thing to check, are you sure you have 2 ir5000's? Depending on the version of the main controller, there is a 5000/5000n and a 5000d/5000dn which look identical but take different system software. I believe the only way to tell them apart is with the SST or possibly a sticker on the inside of the door.

Thank you
Yes they are identical, as the same HD is working on both machines,
Please, give me SST, if you have?

[ymmtech]

the same HD is working on both machines

Ha, solution now clear.
1. Use SST. or 2. Think a way to clone properly.

[gensys]

Active Boot CD
Disk & Partition Clone
Acronis Boot CD
Acronis Disk Clone, Acronis True Image

But you should understand perfectly that do.......
Also that such sector, partition & file system.
Otherwise it is possible to damage a disk and all data on it......


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When I bought iR6570 from me was not SST, I had only PM,PC,IG, but one I knew precisely an essence of all problems are errors of iR and its HDD/firmware and started to search for a software from Canon Systems & Technical Support Division long and tiresomely but in vain, there is such manual4you(member) it suggested me it to buy from it > I asked to present to me SST but in vain. Then I took a disk made image on a disk 80 Gb tried also all works without problems.
It is necessary to know - as well as what to do......
And it is possible to buy always Anything you like
I think a subject becomes interesting......

[jiongpao]

mfdarvesh you may ask nicely in private msg for the firmware and SST. About the SST procedure search at this forum and you may get the way more understanding on using it. As you know im not high rank enough to share with and i asked from them too. cheers ~

[mrfixit51]

Rank has nothing to do with sharing, at least not in my eyes,,, we are instructed under penalty of losing our Canon website credentials not to share the software and manuals with non-certified personnel. The best reason I can think of for doing that is so that Canon can protect it's dealer network, who have invested huge sums of money in their business, from inroads made by non certified people trying to take away some of their business.

[mrfixit51]

Another thing to check, are you sure you have 2 ir5000's? Depending on the version of the main controller, there is a 5000/5000n and a 5000d/5000dn which look identical but take different system software. I believe the only way to tell them apart is with the SST or possibly a sticker on the inside of the door.

I had this very thought as I was reading the thread just before D.L.P.'s posting. I have 3 different system software categories to choose from when I use SST on the 5000 series...

iR5000-6000 v20.01

iR5000d-6000d v82.03

iR5000i-6000i v48.02

[costd]

MrFixIt is right - at least for me. A poster's ranking has nothing to do with my responses or willingness to try and assist. It is my choice not to give software or manuals we pay for away. Any ideas, info, or short tech pub posting are one thing, copyright materials are another.

I am watching this thread because I have seen other posts claiming to have great success cloning HDDs - but have not been able to verify the process. I was (note was) interested in cloning when I was asked about loading iR2200 SSW on 45 new HDDs. Ended up having to calculate time based on using the SST. Project sort of vanished. Still courious though.

[mfdarvesh]

A good news is that, I was able to clone a similar drive with Paragon Partition Backup this evening. Both were 20 GBs, original as well another one.

But a guy, who was not professional Canon technician, cloned so many HDs of different capacities than original
but he don't told me what trick he has played.

Wondering what was rocket science he used? One thing is clear, he was not having any SST with him

[jiongpao]

Sharing the experience is the most expensive value than keeping experience for yourself. Thats why i love this forum, within a short period you can learn alot of things here

[mfdarvesh]

Yes, it is expensive
Me trying to learn by myself that rocket science