Canon IR 5000 Hard Disk Clone - Help Required

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  • ymmtech
    Trusted Tech
    • Jun 2009
    • 191

    #31
    cloned so many HDs of different capacities than original
    but he don't told me what trick he has played.
    HDD larger then original need to apply set HPA. (For ir xx00,xx70)
    Last edited by ymmtech; 04-22-2011, 08:31 PM.

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    • mfdarvesh
      Technician
      • Apr 2011
      • 24

      #32
      Originally posted by ymmtech
      HDD larger then original need to apply set HPA. (For ir xx00,xx70)
      Thanks, trying to do HPA with MHDD

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      • DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS
        Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Oct 2010
        • 860

        #33
        Never done this HD- cloning thing myself, but from what I read on this forum it seems there's another "round- about" way of beating this SST thing. I wouldn't be surprised though, nature itself teaches us that there's more than one way of solving problems. As for you mfdarvesh, I suggest that you make that " HDD- clone" guru/ rocket scientist your best friend as long as you are in this business. The logic is simple: " To become wealthy, one needs to be nearer to the source of wealth".

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        • davidj7
          Service Manager

          Site Contributor
          1,000+ Posts
          • Jan 2009
          • 1107

          #34
          I have been following this thread for sometime. To clear all doubts clonning is 100% success .like another member who earlier said in this thread I have SST and firmware for most of my machines except 7105 series.I clone the Hard disk . I have been using HD clone, acronis and paragaon . I found HD clone as the simplest.

          To the problem at hand I am not sure of the cloning will work if you manualy make changes.

          You can clone between same capacity disk.
          You cannot clone from a higher capacity disk to a smaller capacity disk
          You can clone from a smaller capacity disk to a larger capacity disk.

          Either you are not doing the cloning process correctly or there is some fault in your hard disk. Try with a new 20GB hard disk . I am havent seen a new hard disk less than 100+GB in recent times.
          Good luck
          a machine is only as good as your tech : source:screwtape ; the scary one

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          • jiongpao
            Trusted Tech
            • May 2009
            • 413

            #35
            i might try on acronis or paragon see how the things work. wondering if the machine using sata connection lol

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            • ymmtech
              Trusted Tech
              • Jun 2009
              • 191

              #36
              Why worry sata, see the tp11 and tp11-2 posted by our dearest teckat.

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              • gensys
                Trusted Tech

                250+ Posts
                • Jan 2011
                • 324

                #37
                Originally posted by ymmtech
                Why worry sata, see the tp11 and tp11-2 posted by our dearest teckat.
                There is such piece as << SATA/IDI> USB Adaptor FULL KIT >> from many vendors. Here one of decisions of the given problem, if is not present near at hand SST.
                The Road will be Mastered by >>> the Going...

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                • mfdarvesh
                  Technician
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 24

                  #38
                  Originally posted by davidj7
                  I have been following this thread for sometime. To clear all doubts clonning is 100% success .like another member who earlier said in this thread I have SST and firmware for most of my machines except 7105 series.I clone the Hard disk . I have been using HD clone, acronis and paragaon . I found HD clone as the simplest.

                  To the problem at hand I am not sure of the cloning will work if you manualy make changes.

                  You can clone between same capacity disk.
                  You cannot clone from a higher capacity disk to a smaller capacity disk
                  You can clone from a smaller capacity disk to a larger capacity disk.

                  Either you are not doing the cloning process correctly or there is some fault in your hard disk. Try with a new 20GB hard disk . I am havent seen a new hard disk less than 100+GB in recent times.
                  Good luck
                  Thank You
                  with same capacity of 20 GB, it works,
                  with higher capacity, me no successful in cloning and not successful with HPA

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                  • spectraindo
                    Trusted Tech

                    250+ Posts
                    • May 2008
                    • 313

                    #39
                    mfdarvesh, I have used Miray HDClone software to clone iR5000 HDD and successful. It's free.

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                    • mfdarvesh
                      Technician
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 24

                      #40
                      Originally posted by spectraindo
                      mfdarvesh, I have used Miray HDClone software to clone iR5000 HDD and successful. It's free.
                      Thank you, is it work of different sizes of HDs?

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                      • spectraindo
                        Trusted Tech

                        250+ Posts
                        • May 2008
                        • 313

                        #41
                        Yes it works, but keep the partition sizes the same as the original.

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                        • mfdarvesh
                          Technician
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 24

                          #42
                          Thank You
                          but after cloning, partitions size are same except free area

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                          • ymmtech
                            Trusted Tech
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 191

                            #43
                            The IRxx00 series uses maximum disk space of 10.5 GB on a 20 GB HD. The rest of HD space is unused. So it's OK to write the disk image to 10.5, 15 and 20 GB HD (Clone a larger capacity HD to a smaller capacity HD). Maximum accessible area from the machine is limited to 20GB. It is required to cut down HD size to 20GB for any HD that has capacity larger then 20GB. (This only needs one more step in your entire cloning work.)
                            Does my message confuse U? If u're very busy with the normal machine services, I suggest you to let your computer guru to play with the HD.
                            Lastly, have you ever think "how to make full use of 20 GB HD" so the remaining 9GB won't be wasted?

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                            • mfdarvesh
                              Technician
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 24

                              #44
                              Originally posted by ymmtech
                              The IRxx00 series uses maximum disk space of 10.5 GB on a 20 GB HD. The rest of HD space is unused. So it's OK to write the disk image to 10.5, 15 and 20 GB HD (Clone a larger capacity HD to a smaller capacity HD). Maximum accessible area from the machine is limited to 20GB. It is required to cut down HD size to 20GB for any HD that has capacity larger then 20GB. (This only needs one more step in your entire cloning work.)
                              Does my message confuse U? If u're very busy with the normal machine services, I suggest you to let your computer guru to play with the HD.
                              Lastly, have you ever think "how to make full use of 20 GB HD" so the remaining 9GB won't be wasted?
                              Thank you very much for such a detailed reply
                              Yes I am able to clone disk on 20 GB new HD and it is working fine
                              I am working on higher capacity HD cloning, which are common these days,
                              with HPA, hope I will be succeeded soon

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                              • wildan_w2
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 6

                                #45
                                Re: Canon IR 5000 Hard Disk Clone - Help Required

                                I use Paragon Harddisk Manager to clone and I always succeed in cloning harddisk, even with different size. The tricks are; you have to delete the partition first and reformat it. Finally you have to check the option of HDD raw copy in advance setting.

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