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  • truongson
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • May 2011
    • 67

    #1

    Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

    My Canon iR C3200 is Misalignment, the colors are up and down like picture attech, Please help me.
    one more thing, it is not print with PG10 or something.
    DSC02365.JPG
  • mrfixit51
    Lead Service Technician

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    • Oct 2008
    • 1975

    #2
    Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

    If you took some time to search this forum, you would find at least a dozen discussions about this. Slipping ITB belt from dirty interior, old ITB belt that is stretched, worn ITB gears, old ITB clean blade, reseting laser adjustment cams to home position, clearing DC-Con (only after making sure you have either a P-Print or Label Print printout).
    "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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    • truongson
      Technician

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      • May 2011
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      #3
      Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

      Originally posted by mrfixit51
      If you took some time to search this forum, you would find at least a dozen discussions about this. Slipping ITB belt from dirty interior, old ITB belt that is stretched, worn ITB gears, old ITB clean blade, reseting laser adjustment cams to home position, clearing DC-Con (only after making sure you have either a P-Print or Label Print printout).
      I tried to adjust cams of Lasers but I don't know where is the home position, I have adjust the cam and i head the sound of laser bar fall down of pin. after hear the sound is home positon cam?
      Last edited by truongson; 08-17-2011, 02:45 PM.

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      • Tricky
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        #4
        Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

        Originally posted by truongson
        I tried to adjust cams of Lasers but I don't know where is the home position, I have adjust the cam and i head the sound of laser bar fall down of pin. after hear the sound is home positon cam?
        Ok I will search for you

        Teckat provided detailed info here and with all due respect to you I dont see why Teckat or anyone else needs to repeat what's already been posted

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        • mrfixit51
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          • Oct 2008
          • 1975

          #5
          Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

          Originally posted by truongson
          I tried to adjust cams of Lasers but I don't know where is the home position, I have adjust the cam and i head the sound of laser bar fall down of pin. after hear the sound is home positon cam?
          You are doing the hard part first, and it may not be needed, as CanonTech stated, start with the ITB first, go to lasers as a last resort when all other suggestions have been looked into, especially the life of the parts we have already spoken of. Is it time for a new belt, make sure it is clean inside the assembly? Blade? Worn gears? Do the easy stuff first...
          "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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          • charm5496
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            #6
            Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

            Originally posted by mrfixit51
            You are doing the hard part first, and it may not be needed, as CanonTech stated, start with the ITB first, go to lasers as a last resort when all other suggestions have been looked into, especially the life of the parts we have already spoken of. Is it time for a new belt, make sure it is clean inside the assembly? Blade? Worn gears? Do the easy stuff first...
            Its that new reverse copier repair thinking!!!! Only the highly untrained excel in successfully repairing machines in this manner...
            Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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            • teckat
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              #7
              Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

              Originally posted by truongson
              I tried to adjust cams of Lasers but I don't know where is the home position, I have adjust the cam and i head the sound of laser bar fall down of pin. after hear the sound is home positon cam?
              it's not a PG10 or PG12 !!!!

              U first need to print out a PG6 GRID PATTERN
              next -when was the last time u did or do full auto-gradation ??????

              here we go again- READ PDF>>>>-


              ???? What test print # is that ??? u posted-

              iR3200 TP03-1.pdf
              Last edited by teckat; 08-18-2011, 01:44 AM.
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              • truongson
                Technician

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                • May 2011
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                #8
                Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

                Originally posted by teckat
                it's not a PG10 or PG12 !!!!

                U first need to print out a PG6 GRID PATTERN
                next -when was the last time u did or do full auto-gradation ??????

                here we go again- READ PDF>>>>-


                ???? What test print # is that ??? u posted-

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]11354[/ATTACH]
                This image I printed from Full Auto Gradation tool. But when I go to the service mode 1 -> Test-> PG type 6 or 8 or 10 or 12 then press Go , no thing happend, The printer dose not print.

                I tried to clean everything and swap grears, change the blade but the colors still missalignment that why I tried to adjust the lasers cam. But I don't know where is the center position of lasers bar.

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                • charm5496
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                  #9
                  Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

                  when printing a test page from service mode you have to choose a paper tray with paper in it to print from. Should be under PG-PICK. Default is tray 1.

                  Type int thest print (hit OK)
                  Choose paper tray (hit OK)
                  Then push the start key (Green circle)

                  try running a quick auto gradation as well
                  and which gears did you replace/swap? The drive gears that mount in the machine get worn and dirty and then do not mesh well with the drive gear on the rear of the ITB.

                  Also make sure that you reader unit that sits above the ITB is clean and sitting correctly above the belt.
                  Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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                  • teckat
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                    #10
                    Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.


                    u need to resolve the issue > why u can not print out PG Test prints

                    do u have a paper tray set for plain paper ??

                    COPIER>TEST<PG>
                    PG-PICK
                    Used to select Cassette output level during test print output.
                    Setting values
                    1: Cassette 1
                    2: Cassette 2
                    3: Cassette 3
                    4: Cassette 4
                    5 to 6: Not used
                    7: Side deck
                    8: Manual feed


                    TXPH= set at 2


                    did u read my posted PDF , it shows the procedure
                    it shows the pictures like this one

                    3200_Laser gear.JPG
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                    • truongson
                      Technician

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                      • May 2011
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                      #11
                      Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

                      Originally posted by teckat

                      u need to resolve the issue > why u can not print out PG Test prints

                      do u have a paper tray set for plain paper ??

                      COPIER>TEST<PG>
                      PG-PICK
                      Used to select Cassette output level during test print output.
                      Setting values
                      1: Cassette 1
                      2: Cassette 2
                      3: Cassette 3
                      4: Cassette 4
                      5 to 6: Not used
                      7: Side deck
                      8: Manual feed


                      TXPH= set at 2


                      did u read my posted PDF , it shows the procedure
                      it shows the pictures like this one

                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]11364[/ATTACH]
                      @charm5496 I swap the gear of ITB and clean inside the transfer belt too.

                      Ohh Maybe the cassette 1,2,3,4, has problem, when I put the paper in to cassette, the printer does not know paper, it is keep alarm empty cassete. maybe that is the reason why it isn't print with PG10 or something .

                      Thank you Teckat i will interested in to the coner of laser gear.

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                      • Tricky
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                        #12
                        Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

                        Originally posted by truongson
                        Ohh Maybe the cassette 1,2,3,4, has problem, when I put the paper in to cassette, the printer does not know paper, it is keep alarm empty cassete. maybe that is the reason why it isn't print with PG10 or something .

                        Your post is or was about colour misalignment not the fact that all 4 cassettes don't work.

                        Load paper in all 4 trays in normal user mode and check "paper select" to see if the machine knows there's paper in the trays.

                        If this works ok, your not using PG PICK properly.

                        When you cleaned the transfer belt did you clean the rubber rollers, was the transfer assembly dirty inside?

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                        • teckat
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                          #13
                          Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

                          paper tray must have worked , poster shows a copy of an AUTO-GRADATION print out

                          something is out of wack if u can't print out a PG Print
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                          • Dalamar
                            Trusted Tech

                            100+ Posts
                            • Oct 2006
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                            #14
                            Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

                            In my humble opinion,

                            IR C3200 series is junk, between the transfer belts, fusers, and doc feeders, it's crap on wheels. If it's a customers machine or you just *really* like having one, just buy one off lease for $100 and call it a day. That's what they go for around here in good condition with less than 150k on them.

                            EDIT: forgot about the damn rubber rollers after the fuser melting and slinging molten rubber everywhere.

                            Same goes for C3170's

                            /thread
                            Notatechie - "I am trying, but I don't know how to go into Service Mode. If I just go in and press *then 2, than 8, then * it does not do anything."
                            SCREWTAPE - "Try harder.."


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                            • charm5496
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                              #15
                              Re: Canon iR C3220 misalignment.

                              Originally posted by Dalamar
                              In my humble opinion,

                              IR C3200 series is junk, between the transfer belts, fusers, and doc feeders, it's crap on wheels. If it's a customers machine or you just *really* like having one, just buy one off lease for $100 and call it a day. That's what they go for around here in good condition with less than 150k on them.

                              Same goes for C3170's

                              /thread
                              so which machine would your recommend then Dalamar? Just curious.
                              Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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