i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

[bluesky2000]

hi all

i came back ...

this is my problem

1- i put the paper in feeder A4R

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2- and i hit the green key for copy then look it's A3 ... why ?
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i want to be A4R and print it from cassette #3 ...

[vigour]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

you have to do feeder width sensor adjustments.

[teckat]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

Poster has been given adjustment procedure before--

COPIER > FEEDER > FUNCTION

TRY-A4 Use it to execute automatic adjustment of paper width detection
reference point 1 of the ADF original pickup tray. (A4)

TRY-A5R Use it to execute automatic adjustment of paper width detection
reference print 2 of the ADF original pickup tray. (A5R)

TRY-LTR Use it to execute automatic adjustment of paper width detection
reference point 1 of the ADF original pickup tray. (LTR)

TRY-LTRR Use it to execute automatic adjustment of paper width detection
reference point 2 of the ADF original pickup tray. (LTRR)


COPIER > OPTION > BODY
MODEL-SZ ---Use it to switchover the default magnification ratios and ADF original size detection.
0: AB (6R5E)
1: inch (5R4E)
2: A (3R3E)
3: AB/inch (6R5E)

select 3 > if u use both AB and Inch Paper / or 0 if u use only AB Paper

if the DF has no issues with other size paper recognition /
replace sensor in tray or ADF driver PCB

AB/INCH identification sensor
PI3


The machine possesses the following 2 modes of operation to suit different printing modes:
a. normal mode (other than mix of different configurations or extra-length)


Original size identification

Feed direction== monitors the state of the post-separation sensor (on/off) after the read sensor goes on to identify the original as being small or large.
Sensor used==post-separation sensor, read sensor

checks the length of the original placed in the original pickup tray;identification of LTR and LGL.
Sensor used==LGL sensor
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Cross-feed direction==checks the width of the original placed in the original pickup tray.
Sensor used==original width volume (VR1)

identification between A4R/A5R and LTRR/ STMTR
Sensor used==AB/inch sensor

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A. Normal Printing
The machine identifies the size of an original with reference to combinations of the size (width, length) detected on the original tray and the size (length) detected while the original is being moved.
a. Detecting the Size of the Original in Feed Direction
The machine detects the size of an original in feed direction with reference to the state of the post-separation sensor (PI7) after the read sensor (PI8) has gone off and the state of the LGL sensor (PI4)on the tray (LGL/STMT).
The machine measures the length of the time from when the read sensor goes on to when it goes off to find out the length of the original; it then uses the result of the measurement and the result of detection made on the original tray to identify the size of the original.

When an original is placed on the original tray, the light-blocking plate operates in keeping with the detecting lever of the LGL sensor to block the light of the photo interrupter. The machine identifies whether or not the original is LGL with reference to the LGL sensor signal (LG_S) and the width of the original. The machine communicates the original size information to the host machine as soon as the Start key is pressed.

b. Detecting the Size of the Original in Width Direction.
The width of an original is detected using the original width detecting volume (VR1) found inside the original tray.
The volume operates in conjunction with the slide guide, its resistance changing (analog) as the slide is moved. The ADF driver PCB reads these changes in resistance as the original size signal (WIDTH), and recognizes them as specific widths.
To make sure that the original width volume (VR1) correctly detects A4R/LTRR and A5R/STMT widths, a special AB/inch sensor (PI3) is used inside the original tray; the sensor goes '1' (AB/inch identification signal) when the width of the original is 197 mm or more and less than 214 mm.

The track of the slide guide is given a groove so that the slide may stop at specific default sizes. Some sizes, however, are extremely close to each other, possibly causing the slide to stop at the wrong point. To make sure that the slide stops at the correct stops, the slide is provided with a positioning roll

[bluesky2000]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

i have three machine

i change the feeder with another one

and still the same problem

can u show me anything by image

[arielcanon]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

does the feeder work correctly on the other machine?

[kingpd@businessprints.net]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

Did you try any of teckat's recommendations? Switching the feeders isn't going to do anything.

[teckat]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

i have three machine

i change the feeder with another one

and still the same problem

can u show me anything by image

RCON values are stored in printer ---

RCON (reader controller)The reader controller is also used to control the ADF.


what happens when u place A4R paper direction on the glass > close cover > and hit print key ?

does it pick-up from A4R paper in tray ? or ask u to load that size ?


ADF

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[bluesky2000]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

i am sorry for late my friend

@ teckat @

i do it today i will put a paper on glass A4R and i hit the green key

and i told you what happen?

look this problem happened when i rest the machine for service mode i rest it from copier>function > clear :

and i rest Everything that exists in ( clear )

[teckat]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

i am sorry for late my friend

@ teckat @

i do it today i will put a paper on glass A4R and i hit the green key

and i told you what happen?

look this problem happened when i rest the machine for service mode i rest it from copier>function > clear :

and i rest Everything that exists in ( clear )

like I said it's the communication between the DF and the Reader-------------

did u check the RCON settings

Original size detection=
ADF mode
main scanning direction: by slide guide in ADF
sub scanning direction: by photo-sensor in ADF

Reader Controller PCB--
J201 = used for input of power from the machine (printer unit) correct DC 24/13/5/3.3voltages
J202 = used for communication with the ADF (sensor signal input, fan control, scanner motor control, controller)
J203 = used for communication with the printer unit; connects to the scanner motor; used for communication with the ADF; used for input of image signals
J207 = used for connection with the original size sensor (AB).

WHEN U CLEAR RCON
3) Enter the appropriate settings for the following
items in service mode:
a. settings indicated on the service label (found behind the reader unit front cover)
a-1 image read start position adjustment (X direction;
in fixed reading mode) COPIER>ADJUST>ADJXY>
ADJ-X
a-2 image read start position adjustment (Y direction;
in fixed reading mode) COPIER>ADJUST>ADJXY>
ADJ-Y
a-3 shading position adjustment (in fixed reading
mode)
COPIER>ADJUST>ADJ-XY>ADJ-S
a-4 feeder mode main scanning position adjustment
COPIER>ADJUST>ADJ-XY>ADJ-Y-DF
a-5 ADF stream reading CCD reading position
COPIER>ADJUST>ADJ-XY>STRD-POS

*The machine retains ADF-related service data in the
RAM of its reader controller,
thus necessitating ADF adjustment whenever you
have replaced the reader controller or initialized the
RAM.
b. original stop position adjustment
FEEDER>ADJSUT>DOCST
c. original feed speed (magnification) adjustment
FEEDER>ADUST>LA-SPEED
4) Make adjustments using the following service
mode items:
a. ADF sensor sensitivity adjustment
FEEDER>FUNCTION>SENS-INT
b. tray width adjustment
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A4
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A5R
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTR
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTRR
c. white plate data adjustment
COPIER>FUNCTION>CCD>CCD-ADJ
d. ADF white level adjustment
COPIER>FUNCTION>CCD>DF-WLVL1
COPIER>FUNCTION>CCD>DF-WLVL2

--Be sure to perform white plate data adjustment before performing ADF white level adjustment.

After having made the foregoing adjustments, put the
P-PRINT printout in the service book case, replacing
the previous P-PRINT printout.

[bluesky2000]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

ok first when i put paper on glass in A4R and close the cover hit green key it's work print from third cassette but when put the paper in feeder A4R and hit green key it's not work before 2 month the machine work fine and the feeder work very good and print form any cassette

[mramlawi]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

LIKE

like I said it's the communication between the DF and the Reader-------------

did u check the RCON settings

Original size detection=
ADF mode
main scanning direction: by slide guide in ADF
sub scanning direction: by photo-sensor in ADF

Reader Controller PCB--
J201 = used for input of power from the machine (printer unit) correct DC 24/13/5/3.3voltages
J202 = used for communication with the ADF (sensor signal input, fan control, scanner motor control, controller)
J203 = used for communication with the printer unit; connects to the scanner motor; used for communication with the ADF; used for input of image signals
J207 = used for connection with the original size sensor (AB).

WHEN U CLEAR RCON
3) Enter the appropriate settings for the following
items in service mode:
a. settings indicated on the service label (found behind the reader unit front cover)
a-1 image read start position adjustment (X direction;
in fixed reading mode) COPIER>ADJUST>ADJXY>
ADJ-X
a-2 image read start position adjustment (Y direction;
in fixed reading mode) COPIER>ADJUST>ADJXY>
ADJ-Y
a-3 shading position adjustment (in fixed reading
mode)
COPIER>ADJUST>ADJ-XY>ADJ-S
a-4 feeder mode main scanning position adjustment
COPIER>ADJUST>ADJ-XY>ADJ-Y-DF
a-5 ADF stream reading CCD reading position
COPIER>ADJUST>ADJ-XY>STRD-POS

*The machine retains ADF-related service data in the
RAM of its reader controller,
thus necessitating ADF adjustment whenever you
have replaced the reader controller or initialized the
RAM.
b. original stop position adjustment
FEEDER>ADJSUT>DOCST
c. original feed speed (magnification) adjustment
FEEDER>ADUST>LA-SPEED
4) Make adjustments using the following service
mode items:
a. ADF sensor sensitivity adjustment
FEEDER>FUNCTION>SENS-INT
b. tray width adjustment
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A4
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A5R
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTR
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTRR
c. white plate data adjustment
COPIER>FUNCTION>CCD>CCD-ADJ
d. ADF white level adjustment
COPIER>FUNCTION>CCD>DF-WLVL1
COPIER>FUNCTION>CCD>DF-WLVL2

--Be sure to perform white plate data adjustment before performing ADF white level adjustment.

After having made the foregoing adjustments, put the
P-PRINT printout in the service book case, replacing
the previous P-PRINT printout.

[teckat]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

ok first when i put paper on glass in A4R and close the cover hit green key it's work print from third cassette but when put the paper in feeder A4R and hit green key it's not work before 2 month the machine work fine and the feeder work very good and print form any cassette

that's because u cleared the settings
>>> your DF feed settings need to work in conjunction with the Reader settings-

[bluesky2000]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

ok what are the value for DF when i choose it . i need the setting and the number

thanks so so so much for your help my best friend

i do that :
a. ADF sensor sensitivity adjustment
FEEDER>FUNCTION>SENS-INT
b. tray width adjustment
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A4
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-A5R
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTR
FEEDER>FUNCTION>TRY-LTRR
c. white plate data adjustment
COPIER>FUNCTION>CCD>CCD-ADJ
d. ADF white level adjustment
COPIER>FUNCTION>CCD>DF-WLVL1


and when i hit green key for all command write to me " OK "

ONLY THIS

COPIER>FUNCTION>CCD>DF-WLVL2 ---- write NG not ok !!

[bluesky2000]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

a. settings indicated on the service label (found behind the reader unit front cover) where is that !

[teckat]

Re: i back with pucture to my problem ir 6570

a. settings indicated on the service label (found behind the reader unit front cover) where is that !

Removing the Reader Front Cover
1) Remove the screw [2] (1 pc. each) from the left and right of the reader front cover [1].

READER COVER.JPGREADER COVER2.JPG
Detach the reader front cover [1] in upward direction [1].