IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

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  • Herrmann
    Senior Tech

    Site Contributor
    500+ Posts
    • Jan 2006
    • 792

    #16
    Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

    To give simple people some work,
    Trust me, this is not a job for simple people
    If sometimes you feel a little useless, offended and depressed always remember that you were once the fastest and most victorious sperm of hundreds of millions!

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    • Simons
      Trusted Tech
      • Jun 2008
      • 490

      #17
      Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

      Originally posted by Herrmann
      Trust me, this is not a job for simple people
      The unit has about 30 bearings. Indeed not a simple or fun job to do.

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      • nogood boyo
        Trusted Tech
        • Mar 2012
        • 156

        #18
        Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

        Well,

        Assisted in rebuilding the fixing unit... replaced the upper belt assembly. Managed to find a unit where the upper belt wasn't damaged.

        Now i guess it's just a matter of waiting to see how long this rebuilt fixing unit will last,

        thanks for all of the advice with this.

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        • Fer
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Nov 2009
          • 267

          #19
          Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

          Originally posted by nogood boyo
          Well,

          Assisted in rebuilding the fixing unit... replaced the upper belt assembly. Managed to find a unit where the upper belt wasn't damaged.

          Now i guess it's just a matter of waiting to see how long this rebuilt fixing unit will last,

          thanks for all of the advice with this.
          Did it complete FX-UHP-S and FX-LHP-S?

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          • teckat
            Field Supervisor

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2010
            • 16083

            #20
            Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

            Originally posted by Fer
            Did it complete FX-UHP-S and FX-LHP-S?

            GOOD PDF READ FOR NOVICE RE-BUILDERS


            Disassembling and Reassembling_Fixing Unit_TP07-168.pdf


            I never run that on personal re-built units/ learned my lessons just make sure u are in center position & flag is blocking correct sensor-
            I usually do a DCON clear/ then put back P PRINT settings

            FLAG.JPG
            always do a visible Inspect on New or Refurbish ones first

            & only use FX-UHP-S and FX-LHP-S on Canon Refurbish or New ones-
            **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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            • nogood boyo
              Trusted Tech
              • Mar 2012
              • 156

              #21
              Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

              Originally posted by teckat
              I never run that on personal re-built units/ learned my lessons just make sure u are in center position & flag is blocking correct sensor-
              I usually do a DCON clear/ then put back P PRINT settings

              & only use FX-UHP-S and FX-LHP-S on Canon Refurbish or New ones-


              Aah well. Already done.

              Thanks for the PDF, great stuff... definitely going to come in handy.

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              • nogood boyo
                Trusted Tech
                • Mar 2012
                • 156

                #22
                Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

                Jesus.

                These Fixing Units are the worst, I just had another machine go down with a 007-0211 error code.


                This same code appeared on this same machine only four months ago... and i replaced the fixing unit with a brand new one. Now, 35 000 copies in, 007-0211. Again.


                Are there some underlying causes with these these fixing units failing after so few copies? or are they just kind of crap and really expensive?

                I've had five of these 007-0211 error codes (i only have five in the field) in under a year and its been gears in the same location. Apparently the only fix (according to the PDF's i have) is to order a new Unit.

                what a pain in the ass.

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                • teckat
                  Field Supervisor

                  Site Contributor
                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 16083

                  #23
                  Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

                  Originally posted by nogood boyo
                  Jesus.

                  These Fixing Units are the worst, I just had another machine go down with a 007-0211 error code.


                  This same code appeared on this same machine only four months ago... and i replaced the fixing unit with a brand new one. Now, 35 000 copies in, 007-0211. Again.


                  Are there some underlying causes with these these fixing units failing after so few copies? or are they just kind of crap and really expensive?

                  I've had five of these 007-0211 error codes (i only have five in the field) in under a year and its been gears in the same location. Apparently the only fix (according to the PDF's i have) is to order a new Unit.

                  what a pain in the ass.



                  Crap doesn't deserve to be used here>SH.JPG is better

                  OLD CANON POST
                  E007-0211 during warmup
                  Check Sensor assy on the operator side at the exit delivery area, the one with the metal prong attached to check side to side movement. The prong that rides on the edge of the lower belt sometimes will slip under the belt and not be aligned correctly to sense the farthest movement.
                  **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                  • Herrmann
                    Senior Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    500+ Posts
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 792

                    #24
                    Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

                    or are they just kind of crap and really expensive
                    You are absolutely right on this, a pain in the ass to work on, expensive and not lasting as long as they should do. We have 50 boxes of this kind in the field and i remember only one fusing unit which died a natural death. I have sent and still sending tons of fusing units back to canon to get a warranty refund.
                    If sometimes you feel a little useless, offended and depressed always remember that you were once the fastest and most victorious sperm of hundreds of millions!

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                    • vigour
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1038

                      #25
                      Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

                      Originally posted by nogood boyo
                      Jesus.

                      These Fixing Units are the worst, I just had another machine go down with a 007-0211 error code.


                      This same code appeared on this same machine only four months ago... and i replaced the fixing unit with a brand new one. Now, 35 000 copies in, 007-0211. Again.


                      Are there some underlying causes with these these fixing units failing after so few copies? or are they just kind of crap and really expensive?

                      I've had five of these 007-0211 error codes (i only have five in the field) in under a year and its been gears in the same location. Apparently the only fix (according to the PDF's i have) is to order a new Unit.

                      what a pain in the ass.

                      Is the firmware V65.17 or newer?????

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                      • nogood boyo
                        Trusted Tech
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 156

                        #26
                        Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

                        Originally posted by vigour
                        Is the firmware V65.17 or newer?????
                        yikes.
                        good question.

                        The firmware version is on the p-print correct? DC-CON?

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                        • charm5496
                          Service Manager

                          Site Contributor
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                          • Apr 2008
                          • 2387

                          #27
                          Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

                          yes you can get your firmware information off of the p-print
                          latest version is 94.01.01
                          Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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                          • nogood boyo
                            Trusted Tech
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 156

                            #28
                            Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

                            Originally posted by teckat

                            Check Sensor assy on the operator side at the exit delivery area, the one with the metal prong attached to check side to side movement. The prong that rides on the edge of the lower belt sometimes will slip under the belt and not be aligned correctly to sense the farthest movement.

                            So this metal prong was okay, but the bearing on the lower belt right above this sensor flag is shot.

                            can this bearing be replaced? i was going to pull it off of another busted unit.... but i'm skeptical about being able to put it back together.

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                            • nogood boyo
                              Trusted Tech
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 156

                              #29
                              Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

                              Originally posted by charm5496
                              yes you can get your firmware information off of the p-print
                              latest version is 94.01.01

                              ahh. yes. firmware is good. thanks.

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                              • nogood boyo
                                Trusted Tech
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 156

                                #30
                                Re: IRC 4080/4580/5185 Fixing unit lifetime

                                5185 fixing unit - lower belt, top right bearing.jpg

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