I'm having a C9075 Pro installed this week, electrician is out here and the power is 240V Single phase. Canon literature calls for a 15amp 208V outlet. Does anyone know if the machine will run on 240 as well, or do I need to have a transformer installed?
C9075, will it run on 240v ?
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
I would suggest you to compare the parts number of the psu unit with mine in europe, where 240 Volts are standart. Mine is FM3-4877 and FM3-4878 for DC PSU 12 and 24 Volts, maybe that helps.If sometimes you feel a little useless, offended and depressed always remember that you were once the fastest and most victorious sperm of hundreds of millions!Comment
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
You will need to use a bucking (step-down) transformer to obtain the correct operating voltage.
According to Canon, failure to ensure the correct voltage can result in erroneous error codes and
component failure.Comment
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
I don't know if it will help you but I've had some Konica Minolta experience with 220V 20A USA specs.
We placed 20 units. At 4 locations we had a ton of problems: error codes and jam conditions, usually when the machine was idling, and at a specific time of day. At each of these locations I set up the power quality analyzer.
At 220V specs, most of the outlets read 208V: the absolute minimum (or lower). Once corrected we did get one location with the full 240V (very unusual) and just fine.
I would take a close look at the machine's power specs. Usually they read something like this: 220VAC +10%/-5%, ground to neutral less than 0.5VAC
Did that help any?If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.
blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=Comment
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
208 volts between two phases comes from a three phase transformer, while 240 volts phase to phase comes from a single phase, center tapped transformer.
208 is the net voltage developed between any pair of the three legs of a 120V three phase distribution. The individual legs are 120V to neutral and 120 degrees out of phase with each other. The 208V is in essence a single phase voltage when used as such.
220/240 is the distribution in a residence where its split single phase - 110/120 between either hot leg and neutral, and 220/240 across the two hot legs which are 180 degrees out of phase.
Using equipment rated for 208 with 220/240 service or vice versa is generally not a good idea.
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
Teckat just nailed it.
I had similar problem with Heidelberg QuickMaster PRO coming from USA to Europe.
We used a trasnformer to adapt to our system.
Be careful though - Transformer power should be 1.5 x the requested power of the machineComment
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
The spec sheet says 208 +- %10, which will only put it at 228. My meter reads 241, so not taking any chances. Will either run a step-down to the machine or a bigger step-down to a sub-panel so I have room for expansion (I have a 7105 I want to move to this location as well, also rated the same).Comment
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
If this machine uses 208 volts single phase,it means it uses a 220 v line.It doesnt need a transformer because every machine operate minimally +,- 10% and Europe uses 220 v lines and i do not think it is 240 volts because single phase machines are made for 220 volts in Europe and 110 volts in USA.Even a 220 volts line never send to the outlet 220 volts,it must be a little lower even the line could be very good.At all,you do not have to use a transpormer for this reason and if you choose to use,find a good one,
because you cant believe a costly machine to a little chinese transformator
Bye"Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"Comment
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
If this machine uses 208 volts single phase,it means it uses a 220 v line.It doesnt need a transformer because every machine operate minimally +,- 10% and Europe uses 220 v lines and i do not think it is 240 volts because single phase machines are made for 220 volts in Europe and 110 volts in USA.Even a 220 volts line never send to the outlet 220 volts,it must be a little lower even the line could be very good.At all,you do not have to use a transpormer for this reason and if you choose to use,find a good one,
because you cant believe a costly machine to a little chinese transformator
Bye
I would love to know if anyone in the US has a Canon machine rated at 208 running on a 240 line. My 7105 in my other office is rated for 208 and that's what I have there.Comment
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
208 volts between two phases comes from a three phase transformer, while 240 volts phase to phase comes from a single phase, center tapped transformer.
208 is the net voltage developed between any pair of the three legs of a 120V three phase distribution. The individual legs are 120V to neutral and 120 degrees out of phase with each other. The 208V is in essence a single phase voltage when used as such.
220/240 is the distribution in a residence where its split single phase - 110/120 between either hot leg and neutral, and 220/240 across the two hot legs which are 180 degrees out of phase.
Using equipment rated for 208 with 220/240 service or vice versa is generally not a good idea.
If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.
blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=Comment
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
In the USA there are generally two types of AC power configurations
used in commercial buildings: Delta and Y configurations. For the
Delta configurations, the outlet power is 240 volts AC. If a Y
configuration is used, (the most common), the outlet power will be
208 volts AC. In a single phase Delta configuration, the voltage across
any of the the three legs in the 3-phase transformer output is 240 volts
and the output from the center tap of a leg is 120 volts. On the other
hand, in a single phase Y configuration, the voltage measured from neutral
to any of the three legs in its 3-phase transformer is 120 volts. In order to
obtain 208 volts, the output from two legs are added together. The reason
that adding two 120 volt legs together does not yeild 240 volts is that
the two legs are approximately 90 degrees out of phase, and when added
together there is a voltage loss.Comment
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**Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**Comment
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Re: C9075, will it run on 240v ?
I measured the voltage across the two hots on a double-pole breaker. It is definitely 240 and the line is only going to be 10 feet from the panel, so it's not going to drop off that much. This is a commercial office machine, and in the US, most buildings are wired three phase. Taking the two hots from any of the three phases gives you 208 (as was pointed out). The building this machine is going in has older wiring, similar to residences in the US which is 120 across each leg, giving 240. That's why kitchen appliances and window AC units here are made to run on 240 and office equipment is made to run on 208.
I would love to know if anyone in the US has a Canon machine rated at 208 running on a 240 line. My 7105 in my other office is rated for 208 and that's what I have there."Who loves the roses,must also bear thumbs"Comment
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