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  • repairman
    Technician
    • Oct 2013
    • 13

    #1

    Canon C3220 Offset image

    C3220 with offset image in black or color modes.
    if you open and close the fuser section it resets to normal for a day or so then gradually gets worse.
    I have not been out to this copier yet due to distance and another company asking us to help. So before we drive 50 miles thought I would see if anyone has seen something that may cause offset imaging. Worked on many over the years and have not had one with this symptom.

    They are telling me they have replaced:
    ITB
    All drum units
  • HP:guy
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    250+ Posts
    • Feb 2013
    • 279

    #2
    Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

    Print out a P-print then run a Dcon clear and reset all the settings on the print list.

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    • repairman
      Technician
      • Oct 2013
      • 13

      #3
      Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

      Sounds good. will do.
      we may pack a parts machine in the van to this call. Have you seen any drive related failures causing offset?

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      • HP:guy
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        • Feb 2013
        • 279

        #4
        Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

        No if you run and auto gradation you will see the colors don't line up properly.
        After the dcon clear they should line up.
        How bad is the offset?

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        • repairman
          Technician
          • Oct 2013
          • 13

          #5
          Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

          He said it looked about 2 or 3 mm

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          • teckat
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            • Jan 2010
            • 16083

            #6
            Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

            Originally posted by repairman
            Sounds good. will do.
            we may pack a parts machine in the van to this call. Have you seen any drive related failures causing offset?
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            DO NOT do a DCON Clear > until u Print out the P PRINT SETTINGS > u will need to reload DCON settings

            check if offset in MAIN SCAN or SUB-SCAN or both

            SUB SCAN.JPG
            MAIN SCAN.JPG
            read this pdf
            TP03-1.pdf
            **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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            • repairman
              Technician
              • Oct 2013
              • 13

              #7
              Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

              Thanks Tekat that was more than helpful.

              I will report back on this. The fact they can open then close the fuser section and it works for a while has me leaning to the itb drive and the dcon reset cant hurt for sure.

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              • teckat
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                • Jan 2010
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                #8
                Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

                Originally posted by repairman
                Thanks Tekat that was more than helpful.

                I will report back on this. The fact they can open then close the fuser section and it works for a while has me leaning to the itb drive and the dcon reset cant hurt for sure.
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                opening & closing fuser is only doing a re-set of Patch Image Alignment on ITB sheet

                temp fix> this opening & closing (constant pulling out / pushing in of fuser can damage connection
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                • Simons
                  Trusted Tech
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 490

                  #9
                  Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

                  Check the door specs and check that the patch sensor is clean and set to the door specs. If someone cleared out the system . They may not have got that value put back in ?

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                  • repairman
                    Technician
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 13

                    #10
                    Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

                    sample images atached

                    dcon clear and reset factory values

                    full gradation adjust

                    Black copy mode and prints are good

                    color mode and ps test print shows offset

                    I will be going back out in a couple days. It has a c2 imagepass and its password protected. should be able to get in when i return
                    Attached Files

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                    • teckat
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                      • Jan 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

                      Originally posted by repairman
                      sample images atached

                      dcon clear and reset factory values

                      full gradation adjust

                      Black copy mode and prints are good

                      color mode and ps test print shows offset

                      I will be going back out in a couple days. It has a c2 imagepass and its password protected. should be able to get in when i return
                      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                      pull out the LASERS and do a Manual adjustment to set their home position
                      adjustment is at end of tech pub below

                      READ

                      TP03-1.pdf

                      make sure to do your FULL AUTO GRADATION for Printer/
                      then do the calibration for imagePass C2
                      do u have the Kodak Gray Scale or a Densitometer




                      Calibrate the Fiery RIP.
                      Enter calibration mode on copier through Printer, Settings, Functions, calibration, enter Fiery.1 for the password and press OK.

                      If you do not have a densitometer choose the Standard Color Cal Measurement page method under set-up. Use a clean Gray Scale positioned in the top center of the letter size portrait area of the platen glass.
                      Press Calibrate and Yes to print the Measurement Page.
                      Place printed page over the Gray Scale and press Yes and then done to measure.
                      After successful measurement press Yes to overwrite and to it affecting all users.

                      -Print out a Test Page and Configuration Page. Under Printer, Print Pages, Test Page the Configuration. After verifying print quality place these with the COMPLETED Service Log attached to the machine.
                      Last edited by teckat; 10-31-2013, 05:46 AM.
                      **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                      • Canon.Tech
                        Trusted Tech
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 335

                        #12
                        Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

                        This is such a common fault on this model. The transfer belt slips caused by leaking toner (usually from the black drum) all you’ll need to remove the transfer belt & clean the INSIDE of it & also clean the large rubber drive roller, make sure you clean both these items well., then do a DC CON CLEAR ONLY.
                        The machine will correct it’s self after either a full auto gradation or a long colour copy run, or as you are doing open & closing the left fuser draw.

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                        • repairman
                          Technician
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 13

                          #13
                          Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

                          Thanks Teckat. I should have the greyscale. Get back on this

                          Canontech: The ITB has been replaced and dcon / gradation done as mentioned earlier but thanks

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                          • Simons
                            Trusted Tech
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 490

                            #14
                            Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

                            I hope all your ITB bearings are good.

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                            • teckat
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                              • Jan 2010
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                              #15
                              Re: Canon C3220 Offset image

                              Originally posted by repairman
                              Thanks Teckat. I should have the greyscale. Get back on this

                              Canontech: The ITB has been replaced and dcon / gradation done as mentioned earlier but thanks
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                              that Large metal ITB cover causes a lot of CQ issues> especially streaks

                              I take them off & throw them in the Garbage----have thrown away hundreds
                              leave small one on
                              but u need to connect other side of the varistor from small metal cover under leaf spring (because no screw hole available) ( not doing this will cause an error)

                              ITB_Varistor.jpg
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