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  • akhait01
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Apr 2011
    • 58

    #1

    Canon ir5870

    Hello Everyone,

    I am seeing black spots in random spot on prints. All help is greatly appreciated.
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  • northernlife
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Sep 2011
    • 847

    #2
    Re: Canon ir5870

    Looks like the black dev is leaking

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    • teckat
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      • Jan 2010
      • 16092

      #3
      Re: Canon ir5870

      Originally posted by akhait01
      Hello Everyone,

      I am seeing black spots in random spot on prints. All help is greatly appreciated.


      ;>
      Random black spots on copy

      Copies and prints have random black spots.



      The spots may be caused by a worn mylar in the ITB Cleaning Assembly ( Transfer Cleaner Assembly ). There is no part number assigned to the mylar, therefore the ITB Cleaning Assembly must be replaced.

      ITB ( Transfer Cleaner Assembly ) PN: FM2-0522-000

      ITB Transfer Cleaner Assembly PN- FM2-0522-000.JPG
      Last edited by teckat; 02-25-2014, 01:34 AM.
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      • akhait01
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Apr 2011
        • 58

        #4
        Re: Canon ir5870

        Originally posted by northernlife
        Looks like the black dev is leaking
        How do I check that?

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        • teckat
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          • Jan 2010
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          #5
          Re: Canon ir5870

          Originally posted by akhait01
          How do I check that?

          take it out------------------------


          but first -----Removing the ITB Cleaning Unit



          get a manual-----------
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          • dan7777
            Senior Tech

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            • Dec 2012
            • 680

            #6
            Re: Canon ir5870

            I agree, ITB cleaning unit.

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            • akhait01
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • Apr 2011
              • 58

              #7
              Re: Canon ir5870

              Originally posted by dan7777
              I agree, ITB cleaning unit.
              Ok thank you. Will post results.

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              • Canuck
                Tech Specialist

                1,000+ Posts
                • Nov 2007
                • 1713

                #8
                Re: Canon ir5870

                The spots are more crap colored than black...lol.. SPOT black from dev would be pure black...crap colored is waste toner from itb cleaner. Mylar out of position in cleaner or something as mentioned.

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                • akhait01
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 58

                  #9
                  Re: Canon ir5870

                  Ok seems like the replacement of its cleaner fixed one problem but here are the other issues I have found in the images.
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                  • akhait01
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 58

                    #10
                    Re: Canon ir5870

                    Can anyone help me or give me an idea of what the heck is going with thiis printer. I'm stuck and any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks again

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                    • teckat
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                      #11
                      Re: Canon ir5870

                      Originally posted by akhait01
                      Can anyone help me or give me an idea of what the heck is going with thiis printer. I'm stuck and any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks again
                      -------------------

                      first i need to gut the printer (remove all assembly's) and inspect/clean interior

                      Poor environment can cause electrical discharge between the primary transfer roller and the primary transfer static eliminator

                      Faulty Color Reproduction Caused by an Error in Primary Transfer ATVC
                      can adversely affect color reproduction.
                      perform---a
                      COPIER>FUNCTION>MISC-P>ITR-ROT

                      MAINTENANCE IS NEEDED
                      waste toner dropped from the Drum Cleaning Unit /did u check this

                      -Replace the Cleaning Brush with a new one
                      When performing replacement of the cleaning brush, check both of the gears for breakage. If they are broken, replace them with a new one.
                      Inspect,the teeth of the 24T gear and the 54T/18T gear-
                      GEAR.JPG



                      1-next is u need a full developer change or replace dev units
                      2-replace transfer belt
                      3-Check the Primary / Grid> Replace
                      4-Drum Cleaning Blade=replace it
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                      • akhait01
                        Technician

                        50+ Posts
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 58

                        #12
                        Re: Canon ir5870

                        I don't understand it though... As soon as I replaced the itb cleaner this had happened. I haven't replaced anything else on it just the itb cleaner. Could it be that the itb cleaner that i installed is defective?




                        UOTE=teckat;406671]-------------------

                        first i need to gut the printer (remove all assembly's) and inspect/clean interior

                        Poor environment can cause electrical discharge between the primary transfer roller and the primary transfer static eliminator

                        Faulty Color Reproduction Caused by an Error in Primary Transfer ATVC
                        can adversely affect color reproduction.
                        perform---a
                        COPIER>FUNCTION>MISC-P>ITR-ROT

                        MAINTENANCE IS NEEDED
                        waste toner dropped from the Drum Cleaning Unit /did u check this

                        -Replace the Cleaning Brush with a new one
                        When performing replacement of the cleaning brush, check both of the gears for breakage. If they are broken, replace them with a new one.
                        Inspect,the teeth of the 24T gear and the 54T/18T gear-
                        GEAR.JPG



                        1-next is u need a full developer change or replace dev units
                        2-replace transfer belt
                        3-Check the Primary / Grid> Replace
                        4-Drum Cleaning Blade=replace it[/QUOTE]

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                        • Gamut
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                          • Jul 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: Canon ir5870

                          Toner build up in the ITB cleaning unit falls onto the supporting frame, when you cleaned/replaced cleaning unit you possibly knocked toner onto the transfer roller below.

                          Take out ITB cleaning unit again, also yellow drum unit, pull Itb assembly out from r/h side and shine torch into gap that yellow drum came from, use vacuum cleaner to remove all toner spilt.

                          Then pull out fuser draw from l/h side and clean transfer roll.

                          Refit all parts run up machine and sit down with a nice cup of Tea..........

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                          • akhait01
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 58

                            #14
                            Re: Canon ir5870

                            ok so I removed all units cleaned them out with compresed air, installed back everything and then the printer tells me that cyan and magenta toner is out. I'm thinking this was the whole problem to start with, the printer was not recognizing that those two toner cartridges were empty. That is why the color was printing very light. At least I'm hoping that's what the problem is. I ordered cannon toner will let you guys know in couple days. Thanks for all of your support.

                            Originally posted by Gamut
                            Toner build up in the ITB cleaning unit falls onto the supporting frame, when you cleaned/replaced cleaning unit you possibly knocked toner onto the transfer roller below.

                            Take out ITB cleaning unit again, also yellow drum unit, pull Itb assembly out from r/h side and shine torch into gap that yellow drum came from, use vacuum cleaner to remove all toner spilt.

                            Then pull out fuser draw from l/h side and clean transfer roll.

                            Refit all parts run up machine and sit down with a nice cup of Tea..........

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                            • vigour
                              Service Manager

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                              • Aug 2010
                              • 1038

                              #15
                              Re: Canon ir5870

                              Is your problem the big light oval spots , or are you trying to show that the prints are light ?

                              If you are trying to fix the spots, make single colour PG5 test prints, to narrow dow where the problem might be.

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