Canon ir5870

[akhait01]

Re: Canon ir5870

Ok,

I'm looking for an honest answer. I purchased this printer for little over $1,000 with all of the parts that i already replaced to this point, I would have to say that I spent around 1,000 for parts. So, my question is..is it even worth it to put more money into it? What would you guys do in my palce?

Is your problem the big light oval spots , or are you trying to show that the prints are light ?

If you are trying to fix the spots, make single colour PG5 test prints, to narrow dow where the problem might be.

[teckat]

Re: Canon ir5870

Ok,

I'm looking for an honest answer. I purchased this printer for little over $1,000 with all of the parts that i already replaced to this point, I would have to say that I spent around 1,000 for parts. So, my question is..is it even worth it to put more money into it? What would you guys do in my palce?

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u mean iRC5870

sell it on eBay to a unsuspecting novice or carry a bottle of Aspirins to service calls

[northernlife]

Re: Canon ir5870

oh god, you blew the innards with canned air, now the toner is EVERYWHERE. 5870 is a 3100 to me, anyone caught selling them should be shot on sight. It is NOT a production yet alone reliable. I hate to say it but you got ripped off. I pay 1000 bucks for a 5051 with 300k on it off lease. I would have gone that route but hindsight is always 20/20

[akhait01]

Re: Canon ir5870

I cleaned all the parts outside with compressed air. This printer is junk.

oh god, you blew the innards with canned air, now the toner is EVERYWHERE. 5870 is a 3100 to me, anyone caught selling them should be shot on sight. It is NOT a production yet alone reliable. I hate to say it but you got ripped off. I pay 1000 bucks for a 5051 with 300k on it off lease. I would have gone that route but hindsight is always 20/20

[Apach]

Re: Canon ir5870

I cleaned all the parts outside with compressed air. This printer is junk.

I have 5 pieces ir5870-5880 and all working fine. The biggest problems are: broken gear(after 2x life time) on the fixing unit FU5-0176-010 GEAR 57T; FM2-0433-000 Developing ASSEMBLY (withstand more than the declared) and especially FM2-0394-000 LASER SCANNER ASSEMBLY (this is junk part). Filters should be changed or cleaned regularly. Others should, if necessary, regularly serviced. Currently I'm replacing them with b/w iR5075 and for color iRC5185i. Canon iR5075 if it is in good condition can make the 10k copies on NCR papers 60gr without jam. Same rules for color
The worst thing on Canon models is the finisher (In terms of accuracy). Unfortunately far worse than for example KM.


P.S.
5870 is not a color copier. Color serves only for occasional prints and not constantly doing full color.

[akhait01]

Re: Canon ir5870

thats what i dont get is this printer has 251K on it, its not a lot

I have 5 pieces ir5870-5880 and all working fine. The biggest problems are: broken gear(after 2x life time) on the fixing unit FU5-0176-010 GEAR 57T; FM2-0433-000 Developing ASSEMBLY (withstand more than the declared) and especially FM2-0394-000 LASER SCANNER ASSEMBLY (this is junk part). Filters should be changed or cleaned regularly. Others should, if necessary, regularly serviced. Currently I'm replacing them with b/w iR5075 and for color iRC5185i. Canon iR5075 if it is in good condition can make the 10k copies on NCR papers 60gr without jam. Same rules for color
The worst thing on Canon models is the finisher (In terms of accuracy). Unfortunately far worse than for example KM.


P.S.
5870 is not a color copier. Color serves only for occasional prints and not constantly doing full color.

[Apach]

Re: Canon ir5870

thats what i dont get is this printer has 251K on it, its not a lot

In the first picture you sent, I think the problem was in the BW developer unit (cost about 100-150 USD). I understand that you have purchased a used copy machine. If transported inappropriately then I understand why making problem. For last problem I think is to blame your compresed air. Not to be used compresed air on each part (especially in the inside of body) and you will probably need a couple of packages aspirins now it all clean and re-assemble correctly. Problems aslo arise when the copier is long time stay somewhere and it does not work. All parts again very carefully manually clean and follow the procedures from SM. Take a good look on translucent PVC cleaners they are not damaged or scramble in the wrong position.

[akhait01]

Re: Canon ir5870

does anyone know what error code E000020-03a9 mean? I'm getting it after prinitng around 15-20 pages. Thanks

In the first picture you sent, I think the problem was in the BW developer unit (cost about 100-150 USD). I understand that you have purchased a used copy machine. If transported inappropriately then I understand why making problem. For last problem I think is to blame your compresed air. Not to be used compresed air on each part (especially in the inside of body) and you will probably need a couple of packages aspirins now it all clean and re-assemble correctly. Problems aslo arise when the copier is long time stay somewhere and it does not work. All parts again very carefully manually clean and follow the procedures from SM. Take a good look on translucent PVC cleaners they are not damaged or scramble in the wrong position.

[northernlife]

Re: Canon ir5870

Please check Cyan Bushing ( FC5-1983-000 ) for cracks and replace if needed. Note: Be careful not to lose the small gears or pins.

[akhait01]

Re: Canon ir5870

All of PG5 test prints have white lines

Is your problem the big light oval spots , or are you trying to show that the prints are light ?

If you are trying to fix the spots, make single colour PG5 test prints, to narrow dow where the problem might be.

[akhait01]

Re: Canon ir5870

I'm sorry for such a stupid question, but I have to take the Cyan toner and the deverloper apart in order to get to the bushing?? I can't seem to find it in the manual.

Please check Cyan Bushing ( FC5-1983-000 ) for cracks and replace if needed. Note: Be careful not to lose the small gears or pins.

[teckat]

Re: Canon ir5870

I'm sorry for such a stupid question, but I have to take the Cyan toner and the deverloper apart in order to get to the bushing?? I can't seem to find it in the manual.

broken bushing location is on the rear side of the rotary assembly.


Cyan Bushing.JPG
broken bushing located on the rear side of the rotary assembly. see pic
The broken bushing will not allow drive from the feed clutch CL2 to the buffer assembly.
This will prevent toner being supplied to the developer.



check the Toner Supply Drive Bushing for damage. If the bushing is damaged the Toner Supply Drive Gear and Toner Supply Gear do not mesh and toner is not supplied.
Toner Supply Drive Bushing = FC5-1983-000


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also check
with any sub code ending in A9 (ex. 03A9, 02A9). This is caused by toner is not reaching the developer unit. This is caused by a door that is stuck in the closed position. This door is located in the rotary assembly. You must remove the toner tube and open the shutter to see this door. See EXAMPLE photo below.

Solution :
Free stuck door or remove door.
Cyan Bushing.JPG

[akhait01]

Re: Canon ir5870

The bushings are in good shape, the toner doors...they must be open all the time?

broken bushing location is on the rear side of the rotary assembly.


[ATTACH=CONFIG]24475[/ATTACH]
broken bushing located on the rear side of the rotary assembly. see pic
The broken bushing will not allow drive from the feed clutch CL2 to the buffer assembly.
This will prevent toner being supplied to the developer.



check the Toner Supply Drive Bushing for damage. If the bushing is damaged the Toner Supply Drive Gear and Toner Supply Gear do not mesh and toner is not supplied.
Toner Supply Drive Bushing = FC5-1983-000


================================================== =
also check
with any sub code ending in A9 (ex. 03A9, 02A9). This is caused by toner is not reaching the developer unit. This is caused by a door that is stuck in the closed position. This door is located in the rotary assembly. You must remove the toner tube and open the shutter to see this door. See EXAMPLE photo below.

Solution :
Free stuck door or remove door.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]24476[/ATTACH]

[akhait01]

Re: Canon ir5870

printer2.jpgIMG_20140322_203123127.jpg

Should i clean the drum with anything?? Since I have this all torn apart, what other pictures I should take and show you guys. Also, the doors were half way open on all toners, I moved the latches on each toners to open the doors for toner. Anything else should I check for since I have this all torn apart??

The bushings are in good shape, the toner doors...they must be open all the time?

[akhait01]

Re: Canon ir5870

so i checked all of the toner bushings and found no problems. any other idea on why im getting these error codes?