IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

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OS X Yosemite

Add the printer again to create a new printer queue,

Done.

Printers & Scanners preferences (choose Apple menu > System Preferences, then click Printers & Scanners)
then delete the old printer queue.

Done.

Try to get Device Status again

It still works.

IMPORTANT NOTE: on OS X Yosemite UFRII v10.06.00 Printer Driver

If you have installed a prior version of the printer driver, after installing the new version of the printer driver, delete and reinstall the printer in [Print & Fax] or [Print & Scan] of [System Preferences]

Just to be sure, I downloaded the UFRII V10.06.00 driver from the Canon USA website again. I then removed the printer and added it again.
I also tried enabling the IPP protocol in the printer and registering the printer as an IPP printer. Same issue.

It seems like bidirectional communication is working.

I still get a disabled booklet feature when selecting a non-standard paper size.

When I store half-legal paper to mailbox, and go to print booklet from the printer display, the booklet option is disabled as well. This tells me it may be a printer firmware issue.

Can anyone confirm that printing a booklet on legal paper is, indeed, possible on any of the following: C5030, C7055, C7065

[teckat]

[vigour]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

I copy legal booklets from adv 7000 and 6000 all the time,and print from PC but never tried Mac.
There is always a Legal option so I had no need to call it custom.
Canon Mac drivers are funky, that is why I have my main mac customer use the mailbox. She always messes up otherwise.
As I said I have heard of the issue with 5030.

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

There is always a Legal option so I had no need to call it custom.

The custom size is a result of the driver not differentiating between paper size and page size when booklets are specified. You have to guess and check what the driver is asking for. As it turns out, the paper size determines the booklet's page size, which is half-legal, (a custom paper size) when printing legal booklets.

Here's something I discovered while setting up a 7055 printer on a PC:
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I'm not sure where these "custom sizes" originate from, but it does add a boatload of paper sizes to print with, which is nice because certain applications will only let you print registered sizes. Maybe the custom paper sizes are the OS X equivalent.

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

Just curious, since you have imposition software, why do you use something else ?

Users have no imposition software per se, but the booklet features of various desktop publishing tools ( indesign, publisher, Corel). These have their own issues.

These printers replaced c5180 that were fitted with ImagePass controllers.

[vigour]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

Ok, so I am passing through the office, to get a part, and I run into one of our Solutions specialists, who deal with customers about that stuff.
He swears that 5030 does legal booklets.
During his mumbo jumbo , he said IT DOES NOT WORK WITH CUSTOM SIZE PAPER.

If you have to use custom size to achieve this , then the issue is the driver.
Canon Mac drivers tend to be limited.

Use your Pc laptop, set up the driver and see the difference

[teckat]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

Agree, also just found out that u can not select \use custon sizes to use when u have a Booklet Finisher or a Saddle Stich Finisher.

Just because a Driver has different option selections does not mean u can use them on any product .

Bottom line from Canon Support, on the 5030 u should be able to walk up & select the Legal or 12x18 paper sizes to fold for a booklet on control panel.
Paper size must be in cassette tray.

If option is not available\shown\or grayed out_ u have either a C5030 Firmware or Board issue.
Check Firmware vers.listed on print out.

As for the Mac UFRII Driver, Canon support says there are limitations still being discovered, why the paper size is not available for Booklet selection is something they will get back to me on, they also noted there is a pub on printing Pdf's with MAC driver.
I will search & post it later if interested

[vigour]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

Update on the 5030 issue,,,
It will not fold and saddle stitch legal,
So I should be saying saddle stitching instead of booklet.

I was shown a LEGAL booklet demo on a 5240 with no booklet maker.
The end result was flat legal sheets (no fold, no staples ),
I guess that is technically a booklet.
So I will be more careful with my terminology

[teckat]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

Update on the 5030 issue,,,
It will not fold and saddle stitch legal,
So I should be saying saddle stitching instead of booklet.

I was shown a LEGAL booklet demo on a 5240 with no booklet maker.
The end result was flat legal sheets (no fold, no staples ),
I guess that is technically a booklet.
So I will be more careful with my terminology

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Your right about "NO LEGAL" Big discrepancy in Manual & Canon site link below

From Booklet Finisher Manual> notice it shows LGL FOLD & STITCH, but no 12x18 position
FOLD.jpg



Canon imageRUNNER ADVANCE C5051/C5045/C5035/C5030 e-Manual - Finishing Modes

But on Canon ADVANCED site it shows three sizes--------------------and NO LGL


The Saddle Stitch mode is available only if the Booklet Finisher-C1 is attached.
The maximum number of sheets, including cover sheets, that can be saddle stitched is as follows:
16 sheets (52 to 81 g/m2)
10 sheets (82 to 105 g/m2)

The paper sizes that can be saddle stitched are:
= which is 12x18
A3= 11x17 in = 279 x 432 mm
or
A4R= 8.5 x 11.0 in = 216 x 279 mm

tray.jpg

Still waiting for another Canon support response to my ???'s & not a book answer --------------------

[vigour]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

Thanks for verifying.
I only have access to the manual, and it did not match what the guys told me

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

I gave the driver a few more pokes. I also played with the PC driver. It does offer some booklet functionality that the mac driver doesn't.

The following is information that I deduced from the driver/printer logic.

• Booklet refers to a two-up imposition with the booklet spine at the center of the page and the pages ordered when the booklet is folded in half.
• booklets may be imposed by user software or by the driver
• booklets may be finished flat, folded, or folded and saddle stitched

The C5030 can impose, print, fold and saddle stitch legal booklets, with some restrictions;

• Driver/Printer imposition
  • It can impose the layout if you are ok with scaling
    • It cannot handle custom page sizes, thus it needs to scale the image to fit
    • You can do this from a mac, pc, or from the printer panel
  
  
• Software imposition
  • It can print or store flat pre-imposed layout without restriction from Mac or PC
    • Technically, this has nothing to do with any finisher features because it is just 2-side, short edge printing a flat sheet of legal paper
    
    
  • It can fold and saddle stitch pre-imposed booklets only from a PC or from the printer panel
    • if you want to do this from a mac, you need to store it first and then set up the fold and saddle stitch from the printer panel

The following shows a legal booklet imposed in MS Publisher and finished on the C5030
Screen Shot 2015-02-05 at 7.49.52 AM.jpgIMG_8489.jpg


The following option buttons determine whether the driver or the publication software sets up the imposition. The option to finish pre-imposed booklets is missing from the Mac driver, thus the need to first store the document in the mailbox and then to print it from the printer panel.

Screen Shot 2015-02-05 at 12.48.51 PM.jpg


Disclaimer: None of this is official information. Please correct me if you find any of it to be incorrect.

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

The above holds true on the 7055/B1 Saddle Finisher with 12x18 paper.

[thadwald]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

I am still hoping for a mac driver that catches up with the PC driver in terms of functionality.

The notable functionality missing from the Mac driver are:

• Not possible to saddle stitch without imposing booklet
• Not possible to print on the cover

As noted earlier, the workaround is to store in mailbox and print from printer.

Also, in contrast to the Fiery system, it does not accept half-legal or 9x12 sizes for booklet pages.

[vigour]

Re: IR ADV C5030 Booklet with Cover

It will eventually happen, in a few months
Yosemite is just too new