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  • colonel
    Technician
    • Oct 2012
    • 16

    #1

    [CQ] C280 first print has line

    I have a C280 that has a thin smudgy line just after the lead edge delection and half way through an A4 near top edge. It crosses where the lower edge delection should wipe it out. It clears after the first print. It has a clearly defined edge. Any ideas?
  • allan
    RTFM!!

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    • Apr 2010
    • 5459

    #2
    Re: C280 first print has line

    If its not transfer is must be the fuser speed or temp?
    Post a sample.

    Does the machine make any noise?
    Whatever

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    • femaster
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • May 2011
      • 1458

      #3
      Re: C280 first print has line

      Without seeing a sample, my first thought would be transfer belt. The cleaning unit has buildup in it and allows a little bit past the cleaning blade. Symptoms of this problem are: streaking across a portion of the page in the feed direction, with a clear line parallel with the lead edge of the paper; it shows up only on the first page of every run, subsequent pages come out clean.

      If that sounds like your problem, remove and clean the transfer cleaning unit. If the transfer belt looks bad, just replace the whole thing.
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      • colonel
        Technician
        • Oct 2012
        • 16

        #4
        Re: C280 first print has line

        Thanks Chaps, I've uploaded [ I hope] a sample, I've checked the ITB and fuser and there was no sign of damage - marks etc. Its looks like residual toner on the ITB from the example
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        • femaster
          Service Manager

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          • May 2011
          • 1458

          #5
          Re: C280 first print has line

          Are you talking about the black bar across the top portion and that little bit along the right edge on the page? If you are that one has me stumped. I won't be of much help with you on that one.

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          • colonel
            Technician
            • Oct 2012
            • 16

            #6
            Re: C280 first print has line

            Correct, it is very transient, first print only, the ITB must be picking up toner from some where, what gets me is that it never varies in size or position

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            • paulrid
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Nov 2011
              • 206

              #7
              Re: C280 first print has line

              Is that a print or copy? It's very skewed and the lines follow the edge of the print. It looks like it's scanning over the lead edge and side edge but why it's only the first print I have no idea.

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              • colonel
                Technician
                • Oct 2012
                • 16

                #8
                Re: C280 first print has line

                Sorry its a scan of the print, the scanner skewed it, i've uploaded a clearer example.
                A few more points, I send the same print to the KM again and its OK, I send it to a Samsung and its OK. They all are the same size and in the same position on the paper. The position of a copy from the glass is accurate. It has the latest firmware, its a postscript driver, I'm running out of ideas
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                • allan
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                  • Apr 2010
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                  #9
                  Re: C280 first print has line

                  It looks digital.
                  Whatever

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                  • Hansoon
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                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3349

                    #10
                    Re: C280 first print has line

                    Originally posted by allan
                    It looks digital.
                    To me too, after seeing this better scan. Can not imagine that it is residual toner.

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                    • rrrohan
                      Service Manager

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                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1977

                      #11
                      Re: C280 first print has line

                      Try re seating RAM

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                      • colonel
                        Technician
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 16

                        #12
                        Re: C280 first print has line

                        I tried reseating the RAM and went through the memory/bus check in service mode - all OK

                        Still got the problem, I tried the same image throught PCL driver, the faulty part of the image changed in density, i think that rules out residual toner on the ITB, this is being drawn.

                        OH HUM

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                        • femaster
                          Service Manager

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                          • May 2011
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                          #13
                          Re: C280 first print has line

                          I agree with you on it being drawn. Trans belt smear looks just like it sounds, random smear. Does it show up on internal test prints or copies ever?

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                          • colonel
                            Technician
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Re: C280 first print has line

                            Never on a copy or a internal test only print, the horizontal line sometimes turns into quarter inch long dashes.

                            If you sent a print image as mono then colour its on both prints if you send it as the same colour its only on the first of the two prints.

                            Its like the laser is not writing the image correctly

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                            • imihm
                              Technician

                              50+ Posts
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 77

                              #15
                              Re: C280 first print has line

                              Originally posted by colonel
                              I have a C280 that has a thin smudgy line just after the lead edge delection and half way through an A4 near top edge. It crosses where the lower edge delection should wipe it out. It clears after the first print. It has a clearly defined edge. Any ideas?


                              Hi there...

                              I wonder whether you are having this problem from all paper trays??

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