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  • dc-master
    Technician
    • Jul 2015
    • 39

    #1

    c364e : problem with ADF

    Hi,

    We recently bought a c364e with a ADF DF-624 and the problem is that the ADF shows no response. we even checked the cable connecting the ADF to the main machine and it showed 24v signal inside the cable.
    Also there is no ADF menu in service mode.

    do any of you guys have any suggestions?

    thanks so much in advance.
  • habik
    Service Manager

    Site Contributor
    1,000+ Posts
    • Apr 2010
    • 2014

    #2
    Re: c364e : problem with ADF

    Originally posted by dc-master
    Hi,

    We recently bought a c364e with a ADF DF-624 and the problem is that the ADF shows no response. we even checked the cable connecting the ADF to the main machine and it showed 24v signal inside the cable.
    Also there is no ADF menu in service mode.

    do any of you guys have any suggestions?

    thanks so much in advance.
    Page TWO > there is ADF.
    .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
    Firmwares HERE

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    • allan
      RTFM!!

      5,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2010
      • 5460

      #3
      Re: c364e : problem with ADF

      Did that machine come with setup instructions?
      The main body can take a DF-624 of a DF-701(dual scan)
      Go to service mode and look for the ADF setting under system.
      Select DF-624 and cycle the power.

      Or do you get the message on the copy screen that something can not be used?
      Whatever

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      • blackcat4866
        Master Of The Obvious

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        • Jul 2007
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        #4
        Re: c364e : problem with ADF

        Originally posted by allan
        Did that machine come with setup instructions?
        The main body can take a DF-624 of a DF-701(dual scan)
        Go to service mode and look for the ADF setting under system.
        Select DF-624 and cycle the power.

        Or do you get the message on the copy screen that something can not be used?
        I think I would start by looking at System2 > Options > and see if the DF is SET. If yes, the ADF menu will appear in the service menu. That does appear in the setup instructions.
        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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        • dc-master
          Technician
          • Jul 2015
          • 39

          #5
          Re: c364e : problem with ADF

          Thank you all

          Originally posted by habik
          Page TWO > there is ADF.
          If your mean is page 2 of the main menu in the service mode, I don't have any.
          in service mode, only I have 1 page on main menu.



          Originally posted by allan
          Did that machine come with setup instructions?
          The main body can take a DF-624 of a DF-701(dual scan)
          Go to service mode and look for the ADF setting under system.
          Select DF-624 and cycle the power.

          Or do you get the message on the copy screen that something can not be used?
          Originally posted by blackcat4866
          I think I would start by looking at System2 > Options > and see if the DF is SET. If yes, the ADF menu will appear in the service menu. That does appear in the setup instructions.
          Service mode --> system 2 --page 2--> ADF settings --> DF-624 (it is highlighted and selected)
          but I don't have any specific menu in service mode for ADF and also when I'm putting paper(s) to ADF, as I know the light should be on. but I can't see any action.

          I tried Service mode --> system 1 --> problem unit isolation set
          and set and unset the ADF. but again no result.

          Do you have any other idea?
          or how I can be sure that the ADF hardware is okay?

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          • habik
            Service Manager

            Site Contributor
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            • Apr 2010
            • 2014

            #6
            Re: c364e : problem with ADF

            Originally posted by dc-master
            Thank you all



            If your mean is page 2 of the main menu in the service mode, I don't have any.
            in service mode, only I have 1 page on main menu.







            Service mode --> system 2 --page 2--> ADF settings --> DF-624 (it is highlighted and selected)
            but I don't have any specific menu in service mode for ADF and also when I'm putting paper(s) to ADF, as I know the light should be on. but I can't see any action.

            I tried Service mode --> system 1 --> problem unit isolation set
            and set and unset the ADF. but again no result.

            Do you have any other idea?
            or how I can be sure that the ADF hardware is okay?

            Service mode --> system 2 --page 2--> ADF settings --> DF-624 (it is highlighted and selected) > END > EXIT
            Switch machine off with main power switch and wait at east 10 seconds.
            Power up
            .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
            Firmwares HERE

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            • dc-master
              Technician
              • Jul 2015
              • 39

              #7
              Re: c364e : problem with ADF

              Originally posted by habik
              Service mode --> system 2 --page 2--> ADF settings --> DF-624 (it is highlighted and selected) > END > EXIT
              Switch machine off with main power switch and wait at east 10 seconds.
              Power up
              I did it several times
              no result!!

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              • allan
                RTFM!!

                5,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 5460

                #8
                Re: c364e : problem with ADF

                Is the pick up roller lifting up on start-up?

                If its a new machine get KM involved.
                Whatever

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                • dc-master
                  Technician
                  • Jul 2015
                  • 39

                  #9
                  Re: c364e : problem with ADF

                  Originally posted by allan
                  Is the pick up roller lifting up on start-up?

                  If its a new machine get KM involved.
                  I can't see/feel any pick-up roller movement.

                  Actually, we don't have Konica agent in my country and I bought this from outside and import it.
                  I can return it to the seller but it will cost me a lot and I'm trying to be sure that ADF have some hardware/technical problem and then return it.

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                  • habik
                    Service Manager

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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2014

                    #10
                    Re: c364e : problem with ADF

                    What firmware is it on at the moment?


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                    • mo0651
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1054

                      #11
                      Re: c364e : problem with ADF

                      We had to replace the ADF cable that looks like a USB cable. Black in color. We had a machine throwing the error code for ADF. You have not other codes?

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                      • emujo
                        Field Supervisor

                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 3009

                        #12
                        Re: c364e : problem with ADF

                        You should be getting some kind of error code if the ADF is electronically installed but has a problem..

                        1. How many cables are running from the back of the ADF? 1=DF-624, 2=DF70X.
                        2. Remove back of MFP and double check cables are actually plugged into a small 4x4 board. If so remove and reset board and ribbon cable.
                        3. Check service mode for ADF firmware version. If none listed then you probably have a ADF board issue, or a power problem. Emujo
                        If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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                        • dc-master
                          Technician
                          • Jul 2015
                          • 39

                          #13
                          Re: c364e : problem with ADF

                          Originally posted by habik
                          What firmware is it on at the moment?
                          Please check these pictures (I don't know which one I should tell you)
                          IMG_Fm1.jpg
                          IMG_Fm2.jpgIMG_Fm3.jpgIMG_Fm4.jpgIMG_Fm5.jpgIMG_Fm6.JPG

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                          • dc-master
                            Technician
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 39

                            #14
                            Re: c364e : problem with ADF

                            Originally posted by mo0651
                            We had to replace the ADF cable that looks like a USB cable. Black in color. We had a machine throwing the error code for ADF. You have not other codes?
                            I don't receive any error code.
                            also I checked the ADF cable socket (on the main machine) and we had 24v voltage on that but I didn't check the other side of the cable that connected to ADF

                            Originally posted by emujo
                            You should be getting some kind of error code if the ADF is electronically installed but has a problem..

                            1. How many cables are running from the back of the ADF? 1=DF-624, 2=DF70X.
                            2. Remove back of MFP and double check cables are actually plugged into a small 4x4 board. If so remove and reset board and ribbon cable.
                            3. Check service mode for ADF firmware version. If none listed then you probably have a ADF board issue, or a power problem. Emujo
                            1- one cable
                            2- please check the below pictures
                            3- I uploaded firmware pictures in my last post

                            IMG_8269.jpgIMG_8270.jpgIMG_8271.jpgIMG_8272.jpgIMG_8273.jpg

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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

                              Site Contributor
                              10,000+ Posts
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 22870

                              #15
                              Re: c364e : problem with ADF

                              There have been a few upgrades since K2. Firmware is currently at G00-K6. I don't expect that it will resolve your problem, but it's a preliminary step you need to take. =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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