She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

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  • konica7022
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    • Nov 2008
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    #1

    She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

    hi guys
    i replaced a C451..... with ....C452 for an office

    workload is the same around 300 prints per day

    i have to replace toner for c452 every two month , color every three month or so

    while c451 i had to replace them once in a year!!

    is some thing wrong with c452 why would it consume so much toner?
  • andyf424
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    #2
    Re: She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

    Is the cartridge physically empty or does the machine just "think" it's empty?

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    • CompyTech
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      #3
      Re: She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

      Sounds normal to me... Think that maybe their overall coverage is more perhaps?

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      • splblazer91
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        Re: She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

        Thats Normal. The Saturation levels are higher in the c452 and c552 than most models. Thats why they produce great prints. They decreased the saturation levels back to normal in the 4 series. Have had many customers complain when going from 2 series to 4 series. There is a tech pub on how to make the 4 series look liken the 2 though.

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        • copier tech
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          #5
          Re: She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

          300 prints per day, that's say 6000 for month, so that's 12,000 prints & you have to replace a toner, that's normal.

          But It also depends what the client is printing.
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          • konica7022
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            #6
            Re: She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

            The toner box is physically empty

            they print 70% black 30% color

            Same work load, C451 used only one toner per load

            is there any way to reduce the saturation level?

            Whats the toner consumption on C454?

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            • Synthohol
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              Re: She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

              12.6.4 D Max Density
              A. Use
              maximum amount of toner sticking to paper through auxiliary manual fine-adjustment of
              gamma of each color after gradation adjust.
              B. Procedure
              -10 to +10 (step: 1 *)
              *: 1 step corresponds to 0.03 in density difference.
              1. Call the Service Mode to the screen.
              2. Touch these keys in this order: [Imaging Process Adjustment] [D Max Density].
              3. Select [COPY] or [Printer].
              4. Select the color to be adjusted.
              5. Enter the new setting from the 10-key pad or [+/-].
              To increase the maximum amount of toner sticking, increase the setting value.
              To decrease the maximum amount of toner sticking, decrease the setting value.
              6. Touch [END] to return to the [Process] menu screen.
              7. Touch [Stabilizer].
              8. Touch [Stabilizer Mode].
              9. Press the Start key to validate the adjustment value.
              10. Check the print image for any image problem.
              NOTE

              sequence to make valid the new value.
              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
              The medication helps though...

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              • konica7022
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                #8
                Re: She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

                thanx for the settings Synthohol

                i will try to reduce them and see

                they weree all set to max b4

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                • Synthohol
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                  #9
                  Re: She is a monster, eats tone of toner? (C452)

                  if this machine just has the standard controller, setting to -7 or so will reduce toner usage but check the quality before and after.
                  if it has a fiery reducing the density will severely impact quality ive found so i leave it alone.
                  good luck either way.

                  i think on one of the pages on the maintenance reports shows the toner use% average. the BS industry standard is like 6% but in reality its more like 20-40%.
                  if toner is built into your contract you may want to re-evaluate the CPC when it comes time to renew based on toner usage.
                  just my .02c
                  We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                  The medication helps though...

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