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  • photocopier.technician
    Technician
    • Mar 2016
    • 27

    #1

    MAGENTA out of focus

    Hello

    I am having an issue with a bizhub C224e, the magenta is out of focus. The machine was working correctly yesterday and suddenly today morning the client had this issue.I tried :

    1. Trouble reset
    2. In service mode print head skew adj > reset

    The problem is still not solved. I noticed that the machine does a strange noise during the reset. Is it normal ? I attached a photo to get a better idea of the problem.
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  • emujo
    Field Supervisor

    2,500+ Posts
    • Jun 2009
    • 3009

    #2
    Re: MAGENTA out of focus

    The noise is normal when performing skew adjustment, in fact you should be hearing the noise at least 3 times (not sure if the K PH has the skew motor). Are you cycling power after the skew adjustment? I would go with a new print head, as this is pretty bad. Emujo
    If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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    • imihm
      Technician

      50+ Posts
      • Feb 2014
      • 77

      #3
      Re: MAGENTA out of focus

      Originally posted by photocopier.technician
      Hello

      I am having an issue with a bizhub C224e, the magenta is out of focus. The machine was working correctly yesterday and suddenly today morning the client had this issue.I tried :

      1. Trouble reset
      2. In service mode print head skew adj > reset

      The problem is still not solved. I noticed that the machine does a strange noise during the reset. Is it normal ? I attached a photo to get a better idea of the problem.

      Hi there...
      It seems you have color misregistration on all ,try to run stabilization then check magenta pcu...
      Thanks

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      • encorelaser@comcast.net
        Technician

        Site Contributor
        50+ Posts
        • May 2011
        • 63

        #4
        Re: MAGENTA out of focus

        Hi, I had a similar issue on an HP CLJ 4700. Tech support suggested a new magenta lsu but it ended up being the ITB. Good luck, hope that helps.

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        • photocopier.technician
          Technician
          • Mar 2016
          • 27

          #5
          Re: MAGENTA out of focus

          Thanks for replies

          Yes emujo i restarted the machine after the reset. I also think i will have to test with another printhead.
          imihm i did stabilisation also but problem not solved.What do you mean by pcu ?
          encorelaser@comcast.net Can de the ITB ( Intermediate Transfer Belt ), i will give that a try

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          • photocopier.technician
            Technician
            • Mar 2016
            • 27

            #6
            Re: MAGENTA out of focus

            Hello

            To my opinion also i think its a print head issue. I removed a print head assembly from a machine we have in our workshop to test in the faulty machine but to may big surprise the flat connector is not the same. They are both biz hub C224e. The faulty machine's connector has less pins and the machine in our workshop has more pins. Its very strange.

            As for the transfer belt i gave it a try but not solved problem.

            imihm what pcu ?

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            • kingarthur
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Feb 2008
              • 1301

              #7
              Re: MAGENTA out of focus

              Just had a similar problem on a C284e, went into tech rep, imaging process adjustment,stabilizer, initialize & image stabilization, then ran gradation process afterwards
              Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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              • habik
                Service Manager

                Site Contributor
                1,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 2013

                #8
                Re: MAGENTA out of focus

                if push comes to shaft, print list output and highlight the current values, then start going manually up on magenta lets say 200, then again 200.....as this is doing steps not the actual limit. between each do stabilisation and do print test after. See how it moves, if it doesn't open th PH unit and check the mechanism.
                .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
                Firmwares HERE

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                • photocopier.technician
                  Technician
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 27

                  #9
                  Re: MAGENTA out of focus

                  Hello habik

                  Thanks for reply

                  1. can you please explain ''if push comes to shaft''.
                  2. I did i
                  n service mode print head skew adj > reset. But i dont know in which menu in service mode i can change the values manually for the laser.
                  3. i already
                  open th PH unit and check the mechanism : everything seem to be ok

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                  • jamaicapepe
                    Technician
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 15

                    #10
                    Re: MAGENTA out of focus

                    Originally posted by photocopier.technician
                    Hello habik

                    Thanks for reply

                    1. can you please explain ''if push comes to shaft''.
                    2. I did i
                    n service mode print head skew adj > reset. But i dont know in which menu in service mode i can change the values manually for the laser.
                    3. i already
                    open th PH unit and check the mechanism : everything seem to be ok
                    Hello my friend!

                    It seems that i have the same problem in a C224E. Have you found a solution to this?

                    Best Regards,
                    Sakis

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                    • Woxner
                      Senior Tech

                      500+ Posts
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 826

                      #11
                      Re: MAGENTA out of focus

                      have you cleaned the registration sensors for image the do an inialize and reset then gradation. i have ony ever had to do a skew adjustment and that was on a c652 once. if the others fail then it might be laser units or printheads which ever do desire to call it. start with the easy stuff first.

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                      • Zesti
                        Trusted Tech

                        250+ Posts
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 308

                        #12
                        Re: MAGENTA out of focus

                        How you tried Print head skew reset?

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                        • lilleputte
                          Trusted Tech

                          100+ Posts
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 154

                          #13
                          Re: MAGENTA out of focus

                          Do you have any oil mark (warning) at the upper right area of the basic screen ?

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                          • jamaicapepe
                            Technician
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 15

                            #14
                            Re: MAGENTA out of focus

                            Originally posted by Woxner
                            have you cleaned the registration sensors for image the do an inialize and reset then gradation. i have ony ever had to do a skew adjustment and that was on a c652 once. if the others fail then it might be laser units or printheads which ever do desire to call it. start with the easy stuff first.
                            Thenx for the advice. Do you know where can i find the registration sensors?

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                            • jamaicapepe
                              Technician
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 15

                              #15
                              Re: MAGENTA out of focus

                              Originally posted by lilleputte
                              Do you have any oil mark (warning) at the upper right area of the basic screen ?
                              Just noticed it! Yes! It says P-21 error.

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