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  • photocopier.technician
    Technician
    • Mar 2016
    • 27

    #1

    Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

    Hello,
    I am having a problem with a Bizhub C224e, it constantly asks for Magenta toner. I already replaced with a new toner but still same problem.When i put the new toner it says replenishing toner and after a few minutes it asks for toner.

    Replaced the developing unit still not working.

    Thanks for help
  • Rikk811
    Technician
    • Jun 2016
    • 18

    #2
    Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

    Can't remember if thesw toner bottles are chipped. If it is, it could be a bent pin on the body of the machine. Straighten the pin and it will work just fine.

    How many copies on the machine? If the toner bottle is not chipped, it could be that the toner hopper is clogged, that will need to be removed and cleaned out. But usually it will give a code for the tcr level (can't remember which code for magenta tcr, C-255*) if that's the case.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk
    Last edited by Rikk811; 05-17-2017, 07:46 AM.

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    • photocopier.technician
      Technician
      • Mar 2016
      • 27

      #3
      Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

      Thanks for reply.The toners are not chipped. No error C25XX. I will clean the hopper with a blower and keep you updated.

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      • mo0651
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Apr 2009
        • 1054

        #4
        Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

        Not uncommon, on this series, to replace the sub-hopper unit. If the sub hopper does not have a white plug on the end facing out, you will want to replace it anyways.

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        • tech51
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Jan 2009
          • 846

          #5
          Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

          Sounds like the sub hopper is not filling up or the actuater in the sub hopper is stuck.
          Remove the cover over the toner bottles and check they are rotating when it is replenishing toner.
          If not and the sub hopper is empty, then check the actuater has not come adrift. This can cause the bottle to not rotate because the machine thinks there is already enough toner present. If this is the case you will have to split the unit and refit the actuater. By the way if you decide to replace the hopper it's wise to check these actuater as I've had brand new units with stuck/loose actuater.

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

            Site Contributor
            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2007
            • 22927

            #6
            Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

            Cyan De-Toned C284e (1).JPGCyan De-Toned C284e (2).jpg

            =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • photocopier.technician
              Technician
              • Mar 2016
              • 27

              #7
              Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

              Hello,

              Thanks for all the replies. I removed the sub-hopper unit and cleaned it with a blower. Tested on the machine did not work. Tested with another sub-hopper unit from a working machine still same problem.

              Check both sub-hopper units there is toner in them, so i think the toner bottle motor cannot be suspected.

              Both sub-hopper units has a white plugs on the end facing out.

              blackcat i did not understand the indication with the 2 photos.please explain.



              Thanks

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

                Site Contributor
                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 22927

                #8
                Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

                Originally posted by photocopier.technician
                ... blackcat i did not understand the indication with the 2 photos.please explain...
                Do you see the magenta toner packed in around the front seal? It's not supposed to look like that. It causes the shaft to bind, and stall. The motor cannot turn the agitator, and the toner is not fed down to the developing unit. If you watch with the engine cover off you can watch the drive shaft shudder, but not rotate. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • photocopier.technician
                  Technician
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 27

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

                  Hello,

                  Blackcat thank you for explanation, i checked the drive shaft shudder and it rotates so i think the problem is not with the hopper unit.

                  Any idea what can be the problem ?

                  Thanks

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                  • Gift
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 2444

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

                    Had a faulty/bent harness causing the toner bottle drive not to turn every once in a while - so try and mark the bottle to see if it turns.

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                    • photocopier.technician
                      Technician
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 27

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

                      Hello

                      thanks for the reply GIFT. I checked the toner bottle its turning and also the hopper is full of toner. Replaced the Front side board and after that the printer control board. No success till now.

                      Any other idea ?

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                      • troll0201
                        Junior Member

                        Site Contributor
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 6

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

                        May be the agitating blades of the feed hopper
                        1111.jpg

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                        • Black Cloud
                          Trusted Tech

                          Site Contributor
                          100+ Posts
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 128

                          #13
                          A quick test that I do is to put electrical tape over the developer inlet. Run the machine to trigger toner add. Check if there is toner piled on the tape. This tells you if toner is exiting the sub hopper.
                          Net+ PDI+ @Remote

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                          • hpsprm
                            Junior Member
                            • Oct 2024
                            • 2

                            #14
                            Originally posted by photocopier.technician
                            Re: Bizhub C224e Constantly asking for Magenta toner

                            Hello

                            thanks for the reply GIFT. I checked the toner bottle its turning and also the hopper is full of toner. Replaced the Front side board and after that the printer control board. No success till now.

                            Any other idea ?
                            hello friend...
                            did u ever found the cause if this particular problem?
                            I face the same problem on a bizhub 224e monochrome (black) machine and I still cannot find what is the cause of the problem.
                            l have tried everything suggested on this post for your problem but nothing work.
                            I didn't try yet to change the front circuit board or the printer (main controller) board as you did but I cannot take the risk to order and charge my customer boards just for testing purpose.
                            also, I suspect the sensor on hopper and is the last thing I will try next days because is cheap and possibly easy to find from another machine.
                            I would appreciate your answer on 2024 if you managed to resolve Ur problem back in 2017.

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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

                              Site Contributor
                              10,000+ Posts
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 22927

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hpsprm

                              hello friend...
                              did u ever found the cause if this particular problem?
                              I face the same problem on a bizhub 224e monochrome (black) machine and I still cannot find what is the cause of the problem.
                              l have tried everything suggested on this post for your problem but nothing work.
                              I didn't try yet to change the front circuit board or the printer (main controller) board as you did but I cannot take the risk to order and charge my customer boards just for testing purpose.
                              also, I suspect the sensor on hopper and is the last thing I will try next days because is cheap and possibly easy to find from another machine.
                              I would appreciate your answer on 2024 if you managed to resolve Ur problem back in 2017.
                              Would you list what you did?

                              This may surprise you, but sometimes posters lie, and say they did things, and then they didn't. What things did YOU do? =^..^=

                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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