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  • methogod
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    • Dec 2008
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    Kip Wide Format for the Konica Techs...

    Looking at getting into one of these KIP machines, any suggestion - i love my older equipment but I don't want to go too far back that I can not get parts and consumables. Would love one with a scanner as well, let me know your thoughts.


    just looking to get away from the Canon inkjet we are using now for arch printing.
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    • copyman
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      • Sep 2005
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      Re: Kip Wide Format for the Konica Techs...

      The Kip is a good machine. And much less cost than other OEM's. They came out with a full color machine about 1.5 yrs ago. First color "Laser-Toner" model from any OEM under $30k. These are available new from K/M dealers for a little over $20k. Or off-lease / Repo's from 10k and up.

      Of course laser dry toner machines are going to cost more upfront than Inkjets but will pay for itself over time with the cost of Toner vs Ink.

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        • mthomasebs
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          • May 2017
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          Re: Kip Wide Format for the Konica Techs...

          I'm a bit of a stickler but i don't like the quality of the KIP 800 series (full colour) although I know they're meant to print media to be viewed at a distance.

          Plus they are absolute tanks!

          kip860_large.jpg

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            • D_L_P
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              • Oct 2009
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              Re: Kip Wide Format for the Konica Techs...

              Originally posted by methogod
              Looking at getting into one of these KIP machines, any suggestion - i love my older equipment but I don't want to go too far back that I can not get parts and consumables. Would love one with a scanner as well, let me know your thoughts.


              just looking to get away from the Canon inkjet we are using now for arch printing.
              What model are you looking at? In my experience hardware wise they are better than the other brands I've worked on. The newer controllers are much better than the original ips too. Not that they were bad, just that was about the only thing any service calls were for. We have a dozen or more and they run great. I do agree with mthomas about the quality of the 800, not great for printing photographs or ad posters. Stick to maps, engineering drawings, text banners, etc and the color is fine.
              There's an unofficial tech support site out there, google search "keep it printing". Hope that helps.

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                • copyman
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                  Re: Kip Wide Format for the Konica Techs...

                  I remember a customer I sold an 860 saying something about poor photo quality early on. He changed some settings and said the quality was much better. Of course it will never produce inkjet photo quality but overall not to bad. Agree about it being a tank!

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                    • kingarthur
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                      • Feb 2008
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                      Re: Kip Wide Format for the Konica Techs...

                      Recently done the 860 training , there are some quality issues ,especially when printing posters, luckily the chap who did the software side is an IT genius, he's written a program to upload to these machines, which sorts out the issue
                      Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                        • methogod
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                          Re: Kip Wide Format for the Konica Techs...

                          Great Stuff.

                          So which model do I shoot for, don't think I need color, can always run color drawing on my other two wide formats, issue i have is 36x48 take about 3.5 minutes on draft, just ran 260 pages took way too long.

                          Need 36", 2 drawers, Scanner would be nice, and PS on the RIP.
                          I would love a stacker, but don't need it.

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