Konica C224 toner compatibility

[ftq]

Hi everyone! We used to refill our c350 with c6500 toner and had great success. I wonder If we can do the same to C224, can we refill the toner from c1060 or c1085?

Thanks

[Synthohol]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

i would not recommend that under any circumstance unless you enjoy callbacks and premature DV unit replacements.

[ftq]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

i would not recommend that under any circumstance unless you enjoy callbacks and premature DV unit replacements.

thanks for the advice. so you are saying their toner are completely different? if they use same toner, then it shouldn't be any problem, since i never had problem refilling my c350 with c6500 toner. I heard a lot copier manufacture they actually use same toner for their office and production machines, the difference are the bottle and chip.

[Synthohol]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

xx4 series toner has extra developer in the bottle, i dont think production machines have that or even the right ratio or even the right size particles for a BH.

[nijebitno]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

thanks for the advice. so you are saying their toner are completely different? if they use same toner, then it shouldn't be any problem, since i never had problem refilling my c350 with c6500 toner. I heard a lot copier manufacture they actually use same toner for their office and production machines, the difference are the bottle and chip.

You can use C6500/6501 class toner and also C6000/7000/8000 class toner in C224, C350 etc machines because toner for these machines do not have developer inside toner. C1060, C1070 and C1085 have new generation of toner mixture with 5-10% developer inside toner to postpone service intervals for developer replacement in new machines. This toner would make damage to your developing/drum units.

Hope this helps.

[907tec]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

You can use C6500/6501 class toner and also C6000/7000/8000 class toner in C224, C350 etc machines because toner for these machines do not have developer inside toner. C1060, C1070 and C1085 have new generation of toner mixture with 5-10% developer inside toner to postpone service intervals for developer replacement in new machines. This toner would make damage to your developing/drum units.

Hope this helps.

[nijebitno]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

[AjitN]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

[QUOTE=ftq;571672]Hi everyone! We used to refill our c350 with c6500 toner and had great success. I wonder If we can do the same to C224, can we refill the toner from c1060 or c1085?

There is some differences in toner.
Some toner does not contain developer others do have appropriate amount of developer as per model requirement. ( 4% to 8-10%).
machines which do have auto dispensing waste developer(you can see that by examining waste bottle, if there is provision for waste developer outlet), the toner contains developer to compensate developer quantity. If not theoretically there is no need for developer contain in toner. C1060 OR C1085 do have developer in toner (% really don't know).
But my experience is I am using same (C1060) toner even in C220/280/360 machines as it worked very well. As all of us know, after some time developer quantity in C280 Family goes down, and this replenishment of developer helps to maintain the image quality. I am using this toner since C1060 made available, before that I used C8000 toner without any problem.
Only thing is that you need to refill it manually as one bottle refills 3+ times.
Hope this help

[907tec]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

Caveat emptor.

[Zesti]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

A HELL OF KNOWLEDGE for me..........

[copyman]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

I wouldn't recommend it, besides toners are NOT that expensive. Plus when a single color DV unit costs $500+ why chance it.

While you are at it you can save $$$ by re-rolling your toilet paper & paper towels and reuse them

[habik]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

I wouldn't recommend it, besides toners are NOT that expensive. Plus when a single color DV unit costs $500+ why chance it.

While you are at it you can save $$$ by re-rolling your toilet paper & paper towels and reuse them

May as well wash the @$$ and save some [emoji268].

But you are right. The labour involved plus the chances of premature failures, think it is not worth, unless you fill it with Maybelline, then it might be worth it!

Must be Christmas season.. all this jokes popping in my head.

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[AjitN]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

May as well wash the @$$ and save some [emoji268].

But you are right. The labour involved plus the chances of premature failures, think it is not worth, unless you fill it with Maybelline, then it might be worth it!

Must be Christmas season.. all this jokes popping in my head.

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Sir
There is no premature failure.
please understand in case of C220/C280/C360 Drum unit, Developer Unit, Transfer Belt Unit & Fixing Unit is same for all models, RIGHT?
Do you think toner could be OR can be Technically different?
Is it possible when all Xerographic components are same and toner is different?
It is just marketing strategy, if machine speed is low, operating cost should go high, so Toner Cap is made differently, We never used C220 OEM Toner but in initial days we used C360 Toner(OEM) and replaced Black Caps of C220/C280.
Guys please understand technically we are taken for ride for many things like main boards costs 80% of machine cost. WT hell?
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[Copier Addict]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

Sir
There is no premature failure.
please understand in case of C220/C280/C360 Drum unit, Developer Unit, Transfer Belt Unit & Fixing Unit is same for all models, RIGHT?
Do you think toner could be OR can be Technically different?
Is it possible when all Xerographic components are same and toner is different?
It is just marketing strategy, if machine speed is low, operating cost should go high, so Toner Cap is made differently, We never used C220 OEM Toner but in initial days we used C360 Toner(OEM) and replaced Black Caps of C220/C280.
Guys please understand technically we are taken for ride for many things like main boards costs 80% of machine cost. WT hell?
Love this unity

This is one series and the models within that series. Yes, the toners are the same between the three models. But to put C220 toner into a C368 is not a good idea. As models change, so does the toner. Advances are made. Things get better, hopefully.

[Zesti]

Re: Konica C224 toner compatibility

This is one series and the models within that series. Yes, the toners are the same between the three models. But to put C220 toner into a C368 is not a good idea. As models change, so does the toner. Advances are made. Things get better, hopefully.

Keeping in view of above mentioned discussion about carrier ratio in toner their may consequences of using toner of different models. I have personal experience on color mfp' s creating image problems and it seems that there is more developer in DV than it should be....how it's possible, reducing developer qty fixes the problem. The additional developer came with non OEM substandard toner.

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