[Misc] minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

[jabatt]

minolta bizhub C284 => to C364
C224e => to C284e
C284e => to C364e
C022eDN => to C028eDN
C028eDN => to C036eDN
224e => to 284e
284e => to 364e Upgrade
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[copyman]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

OK. So I guess you are saying this tool will convert the machines into the faster versions? Why? Are you planning on selling these? price?

Haven't heard anything like this since the bizhub 250 where you could reprogram the little eprom on main board and turn it into a 350. Not sure I would want to attempt this with these newer machines. Worried enough about strange things happening with these machine don't want to add to that. I guess it would be good for those customers that say "wish their machine was faster". But I don't hear that much so not a problem.

[rrrohan]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

Guess it's no worse than over clocking a PC

[copier tech]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

No tool required, all you need is a few firmware files & a little knowledge

Copier Firmware - Canon Firmware, What Is Firmware, Ricoh Firmware

[copyman]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

Hey copier tech. Yeah I've heard with Kon/Min all their segment machines are same from factory. What makes their speed is basically F/W.

Still not sure I want to attempt any changes to these newer models. Things have quieted down and I don't want to stir anything up

[Phil B.]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

not sure about KM... but I know when I was working on ricoh ... some of the drive parts in a slower machine weren't built to take the strain of higher speeds.. People can do as they please... but I for one would steer clear of actions like these.

[copier tech]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

Not really worth the effort converting a 224 - 284 all for an extra 6PPM

[Chesterfield]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

jabbat contact me thks

[byronf]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

minolta bizhub C284 => to C364
C224e => to C284e
C284e => to C364e
C022eDN => to C028eDN
C028eDN => to C036eDN
224e => to 284e
284e => to 364e Upgrade
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Hi I would love to give this a bash. how do I get one of these.

[emujo2]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

In KMs the speed of the machine remains the same..for instance a C364e transfer belt rotates at the same speed as the C224e..The PPM is achieved by page timing..So a C224e will pull paper through the machine at the same speed as a C364e..There is just a larger gap in the time between sheets fed. I still think you wind up with a dead machine trying this.

[allan]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

Sounds scamy to start with. Does this work or just in to con you out of some money??
Looks like a SSD writing thing and some ISW cable. Where is the header where you plug it in?
Where does the ISP side got to so you need the ISP device too?

Would be great but i would not claim or sell the difference in obtained speed i would leave the labels on the machines as is and just score off of the reduced rotation time on the parts!


Yes only paper feed interval is changed between models.

[tulintron]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

We've already switched speeds from Ricoh 907 to 1357.


Minolta 5500 to 6500 we can change the speed, but we can not change the serial number.


In both the PRO and Bizhub Office lines, in addition to firmware, you wire in different positions on the PRCB boards, which change the speed of the motors.


You have a card that needs to be rewritten.
Just firmware, will not succeed.

[allan]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

Wow would like if you guys can share more on this procedure. From the original post the info looks like it needs a lot of translation.

[jotunn]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

Sounds scamy to start with. Does this work or just in to con you out of some money??

Probably it works. However, there are more elegant ways to do it.

And... not all of those machines can be converted without trouble - some series have "universal" serial number labels, with all models mentioned on them, like this:

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Those machines are exactly the same. The other, with model specific labels, have missing wiring, sensors and sometimes other things, so they cannot be converted easily.
Generally, emujo2 is right, the machines only differ in the frequency of paper picking.
In the past, there were more significant differences between them, for example BH423 had reflective sensors in paper path instead of mechanical, BH363 and BH423 had the same mainboard, but BH223 and BH283 had different, so the only possible (easy) conversion was BH223->BH283.

Minolta 5500 to 6500 we can change the speed, but we can not change the serial number.

That's interesting
You cannot change S/N - maybe this is the key to convert between L and not L versions of C6000.


PS. I would like to contact with jabatt

[arahael]

Re: minolta bizhub C224e => Upgrade to C284e

all you need is programmer, bin file from c364e to put it on 224e.. thats all from me.
and then change machine type ofc xD