Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

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  • Copycrazy
    Technician
    • Sep 2018
    • 24

    Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

    Hi

    Our little familiar company has a minolta bizhub c220. Usually we only print b/w documents, but sometimes use for print photos, that's when all defects become visible.

    Lines are at the feed direction.


    Total copies: 70 000.

    I think maybe is caused by transfer belt. It has some lines on it's surface. Attach image.

    Do you think i should replace it?


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  • Phil B.
    Field Supervisor

    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2016
    • 22808

    #2
    Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

    Originally posted by Copycrazy
    Hi

    Our little familiar company has a minolta bizhub c220. Usually we only print b/w documents, but sometimes use for print photos, that's when all defects become visible.
    Lines are at the feed direction.
    Total copies: 70 000.
    I think maybe is caused by transfer belt. It has some lines on it's surface. Attach image.
    Do you think i should replace it?
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]44057[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]44058[/ATTACH]
    have the Pm's been done and done properly?

    what are page counts on Drums/belts/fuser?

    Genuine OEM Supplies?

    you show the marks.. do they line up with print defect?

    firmware up to date?

    more info needed.

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    • Copycrazy
      Technician
      • Sep 2018
      • 24

      #3
      Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

      Originally posted by Phil B.
      have the Pm's been done and done properly?

      what are page counts on Drums/belts/fuser?

      Genuine OEM Supplies?

      you show the marks.. do they line up with print defect?

      firmware up to date?

      more info needed.

      Hi

      The two lines on transfer belt that are more notorius lines up with paper lines, the other it's hard to know becouse are softer.

      Attach other image of transfer belt and printer status. There are some parts near i'ts life end, but i would like to know which part to replace first. My budget i's a bit limited.

      Also want to know the function of that smal plastic piece that is screwed to transfer belt. It's loose and moves ups and down. Should it be fixed? is loose and moves up and down

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      • tsbservice
        Field tech

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        5,000+ Posts
        • May 2007
        • 7635

        #4
        Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

        As T belt will affect all 4 colors at same place and I don't see it here, I will have closer look at developer units, especially cyan one.
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        • Toxic
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Dec 2009
          • 690

          #5
          Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

          I think you just need to clean laser glass for cyan laser or at least try that before check drum and developing unit.
          You have jig for cleaning in front door but be carefull not to broke it when you put it inside , i have seen it once.

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          • Copycrazy
            Technician
            • Sep 2018
            • 24

            #6
            Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

            Originally posted by Toxic
            I think you just need to clean laser glass for cyan laser or at least try that before check drum and developing unit.
            You have jig for cleaning in front door but be carefull not to broke it when you put it inside , i have seen it once.
            Hi

            I have cleaned glass with the included brush, but has no effect.

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            • eccelobo
              Trusted Tech

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              100+ Posts
              • May 2013
              • 113

              #7
              Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

              For a quick test you could swap the cyan drum unit with the magenta drum unit and see if the lines change color. If so, the culprit is the dirty charge corona. Although I believe lines are coming from cyan the development unit. Good Luck!

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

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                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 22702

                #8
                Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

                Yeah, I'm voting for the cyan developing unit also, maybe the drum too. Marks affecting quality on the primary transfer belt would affect all colors equally. Since the other colors (MYK) look OK, I'd rule out the transfer belt for now. Try printing an image not quite so dense of fill. It will tell you more. 11% is nice, see attached:
                Attached Files
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • copyman
                  Owner / Technician

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                  • Sep 2005
                  • 4215

                  #9
                  Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

                  Those lines aren't from trans belt. I've seen belts a lot worse than that not showing lines! Besides, the real clue here is lines only appear to be on Cyan, if belt was bad lines would be on all colors. Like other poster said swap drum and see if lines travel to other color. My guess is Cyan drum is bad.

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                  • rrrohan
                    Service Manager

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                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1971

                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

                    Originally posted by Copycrazy
                    Hi


                    Also want to know the function of that smal plastic piece that is screwed to transfer belt. It's loose and moves ups and down. Should it be fixed? is loose and moves up and down

                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]44060[/ATTACH]
                    its a paper guide, without it paper can get caught up onto of belt instead of following paper path up to fuser

                    its also notorious for flipping and leaving a dent on belt

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                    • Bix
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 1421

                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

                      Hi, make sure the rubber is fixed on the bodywork inside.
                      It happened sometimes to find a piece of rubber crawling on the belt in those printers.
                      For the cyan, the ph window appears to be dirty.

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                      • blackcat4866
                        Master Of The Obvious

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                        • Jul 2007
                        • 22702

                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

                        Originally posted by rrrohan
                        its a paper guide, without it paper can get caught up onto of belt instead of following paper path up to fuser

                        its also notorious for flipping and leaving a dent on belt
                        It looks a bit like a mustache. Many techs remove these at installation.
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • Bix
                          Service Manager

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 1421

                          #13
                          Re: Bizhub C220 paralell lines at soft color prints. Transfer belt? + Photos

                          Originally posted by blackcat4866
                          It looks a bit like a mustache. Many techs remove these at installation.
                          I happened to scratch the belt by unscrewing the screw. The screwdriver slipped.
                          In the 8e series KM now put it without a screw.

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