Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

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  • ThatguyinAK
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2019
    • 9

    Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

    Hello,

    New to these forums, not a "tech" but know enough be dangerous...

    I've got a Konica Minolta BizHub C458 that used to have account tracking on it - had to disable that for a time and am now "turning it back on".

    Previously, the account track worked where you would go to print from a program, would bring up the "preferences", you would have to choose the "basic" tab, then click the "account verify / account track" button, which would bring up another window where the user would type in their password, click verify, and then go on printing. The user only had to do this ONCE per day generally. This is where my issue lies - I can't figure out how to allow the user to only have to verify ONCE. Now, users have to verify for EACH print job.

    Can anyone please help!?

    Thanks in advance!
  • emujo2
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    • Mar 2017
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    #2
    Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

    Printer properties/settings tab/User Authentication Settings/ Verify authentication before printing. If checked it will check every time. E

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    • ThatguyinAK
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2019
      • 9

      #3
      Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

      So in the Authentication settings under printer properties, NOTHING is checked...should the "verify authentication settings before printing" be checked? I thought it would be checked/turned on, but it's not...

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      • allan
        RTFM!!

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        • Apr 2010
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        #4
        Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

        Jip but will ask you to enter authentication info every time you print.
        Whatever

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        • ThatguyinAK
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2019
          • 9

          #5
          Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

          Originally posted by allan
          Jip but will ask you to enter authentication info every time you print.

          Hmm...

          Trying to only get ONE authentication per day/user though...

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          • Synthohol
            Certified Konica Expert

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            • Mar 2016
            • 5457

            #6
            Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

            then lock it in under Advanced-Printing defaults and apply.
            will not ask at all but any print under that ID will be "billed"
            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
            The medication helps though...

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

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              • Jul 2007
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              #7
              Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

              If each PC has a dedicated user, why not just enter the password right into the driver defaults so it never asks? Whomever uses that PC gets billed.
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • ThatguyinAK
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2019
                • 9

                #8
                Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                If each PC has a dedicated user, why not just enter the password right into the driver defaults so it never asks? Whomever uses that PC gets billed.

                Just about every PC has a dedicated user...how do I go about doing that?

                And by "billed" I assume you mean it counts the print for account tracking.

                I've been changing these settings via "pagescope web connection" not sure if that makes a huge difference or not.

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                • blackcat4866
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                  Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

                  Sorry, I don't know the exact keystrokes off the top of my head. I don't get to do it often enough. Ok, I'll try:

                  On each PC: Start > search "Devices and Printers" > select print driver > Print Queue > Printer > Properties > Preferences > Basic > Authentication/Account Track > ... I think you can figure it out from here.

                  =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • rrrohan
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                    • Sep 2011
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                    #10
                    Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

                    popup.JPG

                    are you sure popup authentication dialogue when printing isnt ticked

                    never mind i re read everything and see you have already looked

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                    • ThatguyinAK
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2019
                      • 9

                      #11
                      Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      Sorry, I don't know the exact keystrokes off the top of my head. I don't get to do it often enough. Ok, I'll try:

                      On each PC: Start > search "Devices and Printers" > select print driver > Print Queue > Printer > Properties > Preferences > Basic > Authentication/Account Track > ... I think you can figure it out from here.

                      =^..^=

                      Yes, this is how I've had people verify for printing - the issue is they have to do it EVERY time they want to print - I'm looking for a way for them to do it once per logon/day/whatever per user. Printer Issue.jpg
                      If you look at the screen shot - it kind of illustrates it. I want users to only have to enter that password once. I KNOW this is possible, because that's how it was set up before I turned off the account track setting.

                      Super frustrating. I feel like i don't have enough knowledge to properly illustrate my problem...probably why I'm not IT. lol, ugh.

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                      • ThatguyinAK
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2019
                        • 9

                        #12
                        Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

                        Originally posted by rrrohan
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                        are you sure popup authentication dialogue when printing isnt ticked

                        never mind i re read everything and see you have already looked

                        Yeah, all of those options are left "unchecked"/"not marked".

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                        • rrrohan
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                          • Sep 2011
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                          #13
                          Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

                          what driver are you running?

                          not the universal driver?

                          what pc enviroment is it, terminal server or anything?

                          are the drivers local installs or from the server

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                          • ThatguyinAK
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 9

                            #14
                            Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

                            Originally posted by rrrohan
                            what driver are you running?

                            not the universal driver?

                            what pc enviroment is it, terminal server or anything?

                            are the drivers local installs or from the server

                            So those are all questions I was nervous about as I'm not exactly sure on the answers...


                            I don't know what the universal driver is. >.<

                            Driver name: KONICA MINOLTA C658SeriesPCL
                            Driver Type: Type 3 - User Mode
                            Driver version: 10.1.1.0

                            That's what I've got on the windows printer test page I did. Then there's a number of additional print driver files listed, about 20 of them.

                            As far as environment, I've no idea. Sorry I'm not much help, this is probably my issue to begin with! lol.

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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

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                              • Jul 2007
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                              #15
                              Re: Konica Minolta BizHub C458 - Account track / verify issues

                              I'm guessing that these drivers are on a server somewhere and endusers settings are not saved at log-off. That's one step past my experience/expertise. One of the IT guys will have to take it from here. =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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