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  • CopierNerd
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    • Feb 2015
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    Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

    This problem is not new. All experts know about it i guess.

    Press c2060 jamming and giving J-3102 from tray 3. Substrate is 300gm. 260gm is working like a charm. No jams from tray 3.

    Surprisingly 300gm media is not jamming from bypass tray.It get jam only from tray 3. It does not matter how much you print from bypass tray it all passes smoothly. This means the path is clear.

    Media jams before entering fusing unit. It doesnt even touch the actuator of fusing sensor and stops. What on earth is causing this jam?

    Any expert would like to shed some light on it?

    Many Thanks
  • Phil B.
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    Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

    Originally posted by CopierNerd
    This problem is not new. All experts know about it i guess.

    Press c2060 jamming and giving J-3102 from tray 3. Substrate is 300gm. 260gm is working like a charm. No jams from tray 3.

    Surprisingly 300gm media is not jamming from bypass tray.It get jam only from tray 3. It does not matter how much you print from bypass tray it all passes smoothly. This means the path is clear.

    Media jams before entering fusing unit. It doesnt even touch the actuator of fusing sensor and stops. What on earth is causing this jam?

    Any expert would like to shed some light on it?

    Many Thanks

    doubt that tray is designed for that heavy of a paper.

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    • raplma
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      #3
      Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

      Couple of questions come to mind...
      By tray 3 I assume you are referring to the LU202, which one do you have the m or xl version. Either are rated to take 300gsm
      Does it jam when you run a single sheet (1 page) job from tray 3 rather than multiple?

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      • Phil B.
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        Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

        Originally posted by raplma
        Couple of questions come to mind...
        By tray 3 I assume you are referring to the LU202, which one do you have the m or xl version. Either are rated to take 300gsm
        Does it jam when you run a single sheet (1 page) job from tray 3 rather than multiple?
        I ASSumed he meant cassette not LCT

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        • tsbservice
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          Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

          300gsm paper is upper limit from tray 3 and 5. Maybe check separation settings in manual and make some adjustments.
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          • blackcat4866
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            Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

            Roller feed, not vacuum feed, yes? =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • raplma
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              Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

              Originally posted by Phil B.
              I ASSumed he meant cassette not LCT
              IIRC - I may be mistaken - the 2060L only has two cassette trays and the LCT (LU202m or LU202XL) roller fed units as options, the PFxx units inc. PF707 vacuum fed unit not an option.

              If it does run a single sheet, and assuming the rollers are in good condition I would adjust the tension spring on the paper feed assy.

              One of our presses has the LU202 and we run a lot of heavy board probably 80% of all work on that press, it required a replacement LU202 and when it was first installed had to increase the tension on the aforementioned spring to prevent 'jams' although most were j1501 (I think).

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              • Toxic
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                #8
                Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

                Did you try this DIPSW ?

                Registration motor gain-up control
                Function: Enlarge the margin of the step out of
                the registration motor (M45) on the specified
                paper feed condition.
                Usage: When the paper is thick and hard that is
                out of specification, the registration motor (M45)
                possibly steps out. In this case, select "1".
                Note
                Use this control only when the user uses the
                thick paper (300 g/m2 or more) that is out of
                the product specification and jams (J-3101,
                J-3102) caused by the registration motor
                occur frequently.
                This function functions only when "1" is
                selected on the DIPSW and the specified
                paper feed condition is met.

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                • tsbservice
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                  Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

                  Give him DIPSW number, sometimes techs are too bored to use manual.
                  A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                  Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                  • Toxic
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                    Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

                    If i am not borred to post it then he should not be borred just to find it in SM if has not already.
                    This is some precautions to disable end users to mess with DIPSW

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                    • tsbservice
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                      Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

                      Originally posted by Toxic
                      If i am not borred to post it then he should not be borred just to find it in SM if has not already.
                      This is some precautions to disable end users to mess with DIPSW
                      Hey Toxic, I didn't mean you but OP
                      Good point about endusers, not many techs will think about it before post codes, etc.
                      A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                      Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                      • CopierNerd
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                        #12
                        Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

                        Originally posted by tsbservice
                        Hey Toxic, I didn't mean you but OP
                        Good point about endusers, not many techs will think about it before post codes, etc.

                        Tray 3 is LU-202 XL. I have read the manual and DIP switch has been changed for Registration Motor (M45) gap for hard and unspecified media.But its not working. In manual there is an adjustment for media separation but if paper jamming meets particular conditions. (A) if media goes upward and stick to intermediate transfer belt. (B) If media goes between the gap between transfer roller and fusing entrance.

                        In my case media jam before transfer roller. I have checked it by removing the process unit cover and cheating the switch and front door. Media reaches to registration section smoothly then suddenly it jams. Due to rotation of motor and creation of loop it moves forward a little bit and reach near Fusing exit sensor. About an inch before exit sensor.

                        I dont think separation adjustment will work because if it is due to separation trouble then media should also jam from Bypass tray. But from manual bypass tray same 300gm media works perfectly without a single jam. No J-3102.

                        I also have changed tension points of separation roller spring. Result is zero. After reading manual and doing above work i decided to take advice from KM Giants and Titans......

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                        • CopierNerd
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                          #13
                          Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

                          Originally posted by Toxic
                          If i am not borred to post it then he should not be borred just to find it in SM if has not already.
                          This is some precautions to disable end users to mess with DIPSW

                          Manual is used for reference and troubleshooting but reading books does not guarantee that our problems will be solved. There are a lot of things which are not mentioned in manuals.

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                          • blackcat4866
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                            Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

                            No... but its a useful tool. And I don't throw away a useful tool if it doesn't fit every bolt. =^..^=
                            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                            • tsbservice
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                              Re: Accurio Press C2060L J-3102 Tray 3 300gm

                              Originally posted by blackcat4866
                              No... but its a useful tool. And I don't throw away a useful tool if it doesn't fit every bolt. =^..^=
                              True that.
                              My 2 cents.
                              Experienced techs sometimes have supernatural ability to read the books between the lines and find their solutions...still they need first to READ it. Next it's a matter of thinking.
                              A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                              Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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