Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

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  • tsbservice
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    • May 2007
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    #16
    Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

    Originally posted by hobbele
    hey i got the same error...

    However, it is a C364e. First the power supply was defective.
    After we exchanged the power supply, it suddenly stopped printing the color yellow.

    We renewed Dev + Drum Yellow genuine.
    Then we renewed the HV, then the PWB Assy (FRB)...
    And now I'm considering replacing the laser/PH.

    What was the solution here? Did anyone else have the problem?

    Thanks
    Tobi
    What will happen if you block a part of laser window for yellow and print full bleed yellow page?
    I think you skipped some troubleshooting steps and jumped on boards which isn't always good idea
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    • hobbele
      Technician
      • Nov 2019
      • 38

      #17
      Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

      Originally posted by tsbservice
      I think you skipped some troubleshooting steps and jumped on boards which isn't always good idea
      You are absolutely right
      Unfortunately, it had to be done quickly and there was still an old machine standing around to be cannibalized. So we just started... It was the laser unit. I can now print yellow or all colors again

      I still don't understand why it's only yellow but okay... I have to take a closer look at how the laser works so that I understand it I think

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      • tsbservice
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        #18
        Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

        Originally posted by hobbele
        You are absolutely right
        Unfortunately, it had to be done quickly and there was still an old machine standing around to be cannibalized. So we just started... It was the laser unit. I can now print yellow or all colors again

        I still don't understand why it's only yellow but okay... I have to take a closer look at how the laser works so that I understand it I think
        Thanks for letting us know your findings.
        A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
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        • femaster
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          • May 2011
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          #19
          Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

          Originally posted by hobbele
          You are absolutely right
          Unfortunately, it had to be done quickly and there was still an old machine standing around to be cannibalized. So we just started... It was the laser unit. I can now print yellow or all colors again

          I still don't understand why it's only yellow but okay... I have to take a closer look at how the laser works so that I understand it I think
          One of our techs had a similar issue with a C364e. The only difference is that for him it was the cyan. It wasn't completely blank of cyan, but was so light that on a full 255 halftone, it looked like it outputting at maybe a 32 level, while all others were the full 255. Tried all the usual suspects for a single color issue, and ultimately it was replaced laser unit that brought cyan back to normal.
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          My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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          • hobbele
            Technician
            • Nov 2019
            • 38

            #20
            Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

            Originally posted by femaster
            One of our techs had a similar issue with a C364e. The only difference is that for him it was the cyan. It wasn't completely blank of cyan, but was so light that on a full 255 halftone, it looked like it outputting at maybe a 32 level, while all others were the full 255. Tried all the usual suspects for a single color issue, and ultimately it was replaced laser unit that brought cyan back to normal.
            for me it was also a C364e!

            can you explain how the error occurs? I disassembled the laser and saw nothing

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            • allan
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              #21
              Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

              How about some half-tones. That will help a ton.
              Whatever

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              • strider5555
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                #22
                Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

                I had a similar issue on a C258, would not print yellow, but other colours were fine. Went through all the troubleshooting, swapped m drum for y, tried different Y dev, replace HVT, power supply, and PH unit, all to no effect. Transfer belt as well. It ended up being the transfer belt pressure retraction clutch, in the fuser drive assembly, and the only reason I checked that, is because the fuser drive had previously been disassembled and cleaned because of a noise issue. The clutch slipped just enough so that the Yellow 1st transfer would not pressure up against the drum, but did not affect the M and C.

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                • strider5555
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                  #23
                  Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

                  Color registration is also off. What P codes are you getting? What are the IDC values for the front and rear sensors? Do they change? Should vary from approx 0 to 3.4 volts. If one is not changing, and I have seen this on quite a few 4, 4e and 8 series machine, then replace the IDC sensors. Same sensors for 4, 4e and 8 series, so if you have a parts machine, replace the whole bracket with 2 sensors, and then redo gradations

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                  • emujo2
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                    • Mar 2017
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                    #24
                    Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

                    Just has one that reproduced the color test page perfectly, yellow gradation pattern was spot on. P codes and the inability to run stabilization. Customers print jobs with yellow came out pink..Tried Y dev and rear IDC, but turned out to be the print head.

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                    • tsbservice
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                      #25
                      Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

                      Originally posted by strider5555
                      I had a similar issue on a C258, would not print yellow, but other colours were fine. Went through all the troubleshooting, swapped m drum for y, tried different Y dev, replace HVT, power supply, and PH unit, all to no effect. Transfer belt as well. It ended up being the transfer belt pressure retraction clutch, in the fuser drive assembly, and the only reason I checked that, is because the fuser drive had previously been disassembled and cleaned because of a noise issue. The clutch slipped just enough so that the Yellow 1st transfer would not pressure up against the drum, but did not affect the M and C.
                      This is wonderful story. First time hear of such. Thanks for warning us.
                      That's why I love this game! You never know what comes next
                      A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                      Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                      • tsbservice
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                        #26
                        Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

                        Originally posted by emujo2
                        Just has one that reproduced the color test page perfectly, yellow gradation pattern was spot on. P codes and the inability to run stabilization. Customers print jobs with yellow came out pink..Tried Y dev and rear IDC, but turned out to be the print head.
                        Interesting, Thank you Ed.
                        A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                        Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                        • femaster
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                          #27
                          Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

                          Originally posted by hobbele
                          for me it was also a C364e!

                          can you explain how the error occurs? I disassembled the laser and saw nothing
                          The cyan color issue happened about a month ago for us. I still have the laser unit sitting on a shelf with the samples and a note on it. Unfortunately I have not had the time to look into what might be causing the problem yet.
                          A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                          My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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                          • REGSIS
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                            #28
                            Re: Yellow color is not printing Konica Minolta C224e

                            Has anyoned tried printhead reset?
                            Just an idea.

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