Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

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  • Khumz
    Technician

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    • Feb 2020
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    [Jamming] Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

    HI guys
    I have a bizhub 227 which jams paper before it enters fuser unit, actually the paper gets shrinked right under the fuser unit. Its coming up with error code 30:03 which points to exit sensor PS3, i changed all suggested components but still get jam at the same point. But if i remove image roller the paper goes through but without anything copied of course. Anyone with suggestions please help. My client is desparate.

    ....Khumz
  • Bix
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    • Apr 2018
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    #2
    Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

    Hi, so it's not easy to help you.
    1. What is the printer counter?
    2. What did you really replace?
    3. Have you replaced/cleaned the paper dust remover unit? At 150k the manual recommends replacement. There is an incredible amount of dirt that could dirty the 2nd transfer roller and therefore jams.

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    • Khumz
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      #3
      Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

      I did not check the counter but it should be more than 150k. The fuser unit and the image tranfare roller were changed. This machine could copy but failing on duplex. Before i could do anything i ran five none double sided copies and it was all good. I then attempted to run one double sided copy and it jammed the paper. I opened the side cover, removed jammed paper and from there on its jamming paper below fuser unit. It is clearly showing that the paper succesfuly pass through registration assembly and gets stuck below the fuser unit, as if the fuser unit is not turning or its totally closed.
      As i mentioned on my first post that if i remove image transfar roller the paper goes through without any problems at all but it will be blank of course.

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      • Khumz
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        #4
        Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

        Hi Bix

        Yes i did clean paper dust remover

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        • tsbservice
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          • May 2007
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          #5
          Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

          Did you try other paper tray and size?
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          • Khumz
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            #6
            Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

            Yes I did. Its same problem from all trays. Paper jams at the same point.

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            • tsbservice
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              #7
              Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

              There must be something out of place. Is the image registration ok when you pull jammed sheet?
              A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
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              • Khumz
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                #8
                Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

                The image registration is fine. The paper do not get stuck at all, the moment i open the machine the paper just falls out. The lead edge of the paper will be facing the entry into the fuser unit. The paper then multi- fold the whole A4 page kind of held against the drum.IMG_20200214_185716.jpg

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                • tsbservice
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                  #9
                  Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

                  Check registration sensor and it's spring.
                  A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
                  Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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                  • Khumz
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                    #10
                    Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

                    I changed the sensor, will double check though

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                    • Khumz
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                      #11
                      Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

                      The registration seems to be ok and mind you this jam happens after the paper has passed it.

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                      • Bix
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                        #12
                        Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

                        How are the internal gears that make the 2nd transfer roller spin?

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                        • D_L_P
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                          #13
                          Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

                          Originally posted by Khumz
                          HI guys
                          I have a bizhub 227 which jams paper before it enters fuser unit, actually the paper gets shrinked right under the fuser unit. Its coming up with error code 30:03 which points to exit sensor PS3, i changed all suggested components but still get jam at the same point. But if i remove image roller the paper goes through but without anything copied of course. Anyone with suggestions please help. My client is desparate.

                          ....Khumz

                          I know 423 isn't the same as a 227 but I think they are similar enough this might help:

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                          • Khumz
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                            #14
                            Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

                            Originally posted by Bix
                            How are the internal gears that make the 2nd transfer roller spin?
                            please explain a little bit

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                            • femaster
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                              #15
                              Re: Konica Minolta Bizhub 227 paper jam before fuser

                              Have you removed the fuser and inspected it? Since it's obviously not getting pulled into the fuser (paper just falls out when you open the door), that is where I would start.

                              Maybe there is still a sheet of paper accordion jammed in the fuse entrance blocking the path. Try turning the fuser by hand and see if it will turn. If it's not turning I would expect a service error, but if one of the drive gears is broken or something, it's possible the copier sees the drive motor turning and thinks everything OK.
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