Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

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  • Kenny
    Senior Tech

    Site Contributor
    500+ Posts
    • Jun 2009
    • 506

    Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

    Hi guys,

    We are currently having a few issues with our C454e's. The waste toners on them seem to be filling up too fast which is causing the drum units not to be able to deposit toner in the waste toner and then backs up causing quality and noise issues. A message appears on the machine saying 'replace waste toner soon',even though the clear guide is full. I went to a customer on Monday, i replaced the waste toner and then on Tuesday the waste toner was full of magenta toner even though the customer hardly prints magenta print outs.

    Must be something more to this issue, has anyone experienced this?

    Machine is on the lastest firmware.
  • Gaffers01
    Trusted Tech

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    250+ Posts
    • May 2011
    • 329

    #2
    Re: Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

    Sounds like its just dumping the magenta dev, due to a charge issue.

    Do a magenta test pattern are there diagonal white bands?

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    • copyman
      Owner / Technician

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      2,500+ Posts
      • Sep 2005
      • 4215

      #3
      Re: Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

      Agree it's dumping. Need to change ANY overlife drums. There is a good chance the over life drums have crashed the developer units and these are very expensive. Do half tone test of each color, if any have diangle white lines then dev dumped.

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      • srvctec
        Former KM Senior Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Oct 2009
        • 827

        #4
        Re: Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

        Replace ALL over life parts and even belt if it has blurry lines towards edges and also replace the plugged toner filter. BUT, while there, the most important thing is to vacuum out all the toner ports on the rear of the inside of the machine where the developer units meet up with.
        Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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        • stickfly
          Technician
          • Jun 2010
          • 30

          #5
          Re: Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

          Hi Kenny,
          I've just sent you a message regarding this issue.
          Regards ...... G

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          • Takhnamishvili
            Technician
            • Mar 2019
            • 53

            #6
            Re: Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

            Originally posted by Kenny
            Hi guys,

            We are currently having a few issues with our C454e's. The waste toners on them seem to be filling up too fast which is causing the drum units not to be able to deposit toner in the waste toner and then backs up causing quality and noise issues. A message appears on the machine saying 'replace waste toner soon',even though the clear guide is full. I went to a customer on Monday, i replaced the waste toner and then on Tuesday the waste toner was full of magenta toner even though the customer hardly prints magenta print outs.

            Must be something more to this issue, has anyone experienced this?

            Machine is on the lastest firmware.
            I had similar problems many times. Replacing DCPU solved them for me.

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            • copyman
              Owner / Technician

              Site Contributor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Sep 2005
              • 4215

              #7
              Re: Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

              Originally posted by Takhnamishvili
              I had similar problems many times. Replacing DCPU solved them for me.
              Thanks and will keep this in mind.

              I must be lucky because I have at least 75 of the 4 series in opertaion and never replaced the DCPU in any of them. Will probably regret saying this!

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              • Takhnamishvili
                Technician
                • Mar 2019
                • 53

                #8
                Re: Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

                Originally posted by copyman
                Thanks and will keep this in mind.

                I must be lucky because I have at least 75 of the 4 series in opertaion and never replaced the DCPU in any of them. Will probably regret saying this!

                It's little surprising but mentioned problem did not occur in other countries, Georgia is only one and I'm sure that this is because of bad environmental conditions. Here are specific customers, it's hard to assure them that MFPs need good conditions to work. So if your customers have good conditions, you don't have to think about it

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                • copier tech
                  Field Supervisor

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 7931

                  #9
                  Re: Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

                  Originally posted by Kenny
                  Hi guys,

                  We are currently having a few issues with our C454e's. The waste toners on them seem to be filling up too fast which is causing the drum units not to be able to deposit toner in the waste toner and then backs up causing quality and noise issues. A message appears on the machine saying 'replace waste toner soon',even though the clear guide is full. I went to a customer on Monday, i replaced the waste toner and then on Tuesday the waste toner was full of magenta toner even though the customer hardly prints magenta print outs.

                  Must be something more to this issue, has anyone experienced this?

                  Machine is on the lastest firmware.
                  Seen this dozens of times now caused by restricted air flow.

                  Each time vacuuming out the rear filter channels resolves the issue. (see attached)

                  You don't have to remove the main drive unit, just all the drums, devs & transfer allows access with a vac.

                  Failure of Image Unit or Developer Unit.pdf

                  Premature Developer Unit Failure - Image Unit Failure V2 - copierfirmware.co.uk.pdf
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                  For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                  www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                  • tsbservice
                    Field tech

                    Site Contributor
                    5,000+ Posts
                    • May 2007
                    • 7635

                    #10
                    Re: Konica Minolta C454e - Toner issue

                    Most likely it's developer in WTB not toner.
                    On a side note: If developer damping is due any boards I will suspect HV boards not DCPU.
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