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  • Bix
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    • Apr 2018
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    Which rolls do you prefer to use?

    Konica Minolta has evolved in the type of rollers used in the trayers. Which one do you prefer to use? Do you use original or third-party rollers?
    I currently use those with the included C-Clip:
    A64J564201
    A64J564101

    Its are valid but C-clip break easily if you are not careful.
  • rrrohan
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    • Sep 2011
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    #2
    Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

    Does it matter if you replace blue rollers with red ones. I only bother stocking the A00J563600 and pull the rubber off to use the original shaft so use A00J rubber on a A108 SEP roller shaft.

    I was told like 10 years ago blues lasted longer but haven't really noticed much difference

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    • escalante
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      • Sep 2018
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      #3
      Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

      In which model do you use these rollers?

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      • Bix
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        #4
        Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

        Originally posted by escalante
        In which model do you use these rollers?

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        in all models (the rollers are almost all the same). I speak more specifically of the A3 models
        Last edited by Bix; 05-26-2020, 02:44 PM.

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        • Synthohol
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          #5
          Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

          i use A00J563600 rubbers for everything.
          ive also got the c clips so if i break a lock tang then i just make it like a 4 series
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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          • BR549
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            • Apr 2009
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            #6
            Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

            We use OEM rollers. We had lots of problems with Katun rollers about 10-15 years ago. We were replacing clutches, 1 way bearings, torque limiters and sensors before we figured out it was the Katun feed rollers. I think we may have even lost a few customers because of it. Trying to save money with generic parts and supplies will sometimes end up costing you more. Instead of ordering A00J563600, order A0P0R74000. Last time I checked, it was less $. It is the same roller, plus it includes a shaft, torque limiter and clip that you can sometimes use for the sep roller. Sometimes the shaft is different but torque limiter is the same so just use the old shaft.

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            • Synthohol
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              #7
              Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

              i even use the A00j's on Kyoceras. seem to last longer
              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
              The medication helps though...

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              • escalante
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                #8
                Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

                Originally posted by Bix
                Konica Minolta has evolved in the type of rollers used in the trayers. Which one do you prefer to use? Do you use original or third-party rollers?
                I currently use those with the included C-Clip:
                A64J564201
                A64J564101

                Its are valid but C-clip break easily if you are not careful.
                And duration has these rollers. Why the part codes are from series 8

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                • Bix
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                  #9
                  Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

                  Originally posted by escalante
                  And duration has these rollers. Why the part codes are from series 8

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                  my experience, 200k-400k

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                  • qbert69
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                    #10
                    Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

                    Originally posted by Synthohol
                    i even use the A00j's on Kyoceras. seem to last longer
                    Good to know!!! ...we have a few kyocera in the field but are slowly swapping them out for 4e series KMBS boxes!!! Kyocera touts long life for their amorphous silicon drums but the charge rollers don't hold up worth a crap! You're lucky to get 100-120 k out of a single charge roller!!![emoji15]

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                    • Synthohol
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                      Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

                      the KM color 8 series also has the charge foam curse.
                      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                      The medication helps though...

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                      • patrickjlc
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                        • Feb 2015
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                        #12
                        Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

                        I use the red jelly ones, original from Konica. Compated to Kyoxera whete i wpuld be changing rollers every 30k this KM have been good for so far 100k

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                        • Bix
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                          #13
                          Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

                          Originally posted by Synthohol
                          the KM color 8 series also has the charge foam curse.
                          What is charge foam?

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                          • tsbservice
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                            #14
                            Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

                            Originally posted by Bix
                            What is charge foam?
                            I guess Synthohol means drum charge roller instead of corona like 4/4e series and older. It's not exactly foam though more like rubber coating...but sure charging roller cleaning roller has foam
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                            • EarthKmTech
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                              #15
                              Re: Which rolls do you prefer to use?

                              I am fitting the pink A64 clippy rollers to everything that can take them as I dont want to carry a million different roller types.

                              Unfortunately my OCD doesnt allow me to fit them to the 958 series with their integrated white double clip so I still have to carry the old A00J red and A5C tracktor wheel, but in smaller quantities than I used to.

                              The pink A64 rollers actually turn red when you swap them onto the black core and the red a00j rollers turn pink when swapped onto the grey core so I beleive the roller material is actually the same.

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