BH-C-280/360 and BH-C-284e/364e series. Toner containing developer

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  • Hansoon
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    • Sep 2007
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    BH-C-280/360 and BH-C-284e/364e series. Toner containing developer

    Guys, anyone knows exactly which toner contains a little developer (carrier) too, and if, what amount?
    Is it only for K or also for the CMY toner and again, if, is this for C280/360/C284e/364e the same amount?

    Thanks

    Hans
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  • acusso1234
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    • Dec 2008
    • 250

    #2
    Re: BH-C-280/360 and BH-C-284e/364e series. Toner containing developer

    C280 and C360 only K. C284 and C364 has developer in all colors.
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    • copier tech
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      • Jan 2014
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      #3
      Re: BH-C-280/360 and BH-C-284e/364e series. Toner containing developer

      Originally posted by Hansoon
      Guys, anyone knows exactly which toner contains a little developer (carrier) too, and if, what amount?
      Is it only for K or also for the CMY toner and again, if, is this for C280/360/C284e/364e the same amount?

      Thanks

      Hans


      KM have a used the same identical toner for many years.

      For example I had an issue with C224e machines depleting cyan dev units & used the dev from some old used C552 image units I had laying around.

      After topping up the C224 dev units using the C552 developer quality was perfect.




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      • Copier Addict
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        • Jul 2013
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        Re: BH-C-280/360 and BH-C-284e/364e series. Toner containing developer

        Originally posted by Hansoon
        Guys, anyone knows exactly which toner contains a little developer (carrier) too, and if, what amount?
        Is it only for K or also for the CMY toner and again, if, is this for C280/360/C284e/364e the same amount?

        Thanks

        Hans
        acusso1234 is correct. Just black on c360 series and all colours on 4 and 4e series

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        • femaster
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          • May 2011
          • 1417

          #5
          Re: BH-C-280/360 and BH-C-284e/364e series. Toner containing developer

          Since the question has already been answered, I thought I'd share a random thought that ran through my head...

          I've never tried it, but I would think an easy way to confirm might might be to open the shutter on a toner bottle, insert a magnetized screwdriver into the toner and wiggle it around a bit and see if anything sticks to the screw driver when you pull it out. Maybe there isn't enough developer in it for this to even work, but since I haven't tried it, who knows.
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          • Hansoon
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            Re: BH-C-280/360 and BH-C-284e/364e series. Toner containing developer

            Thanks Guys.

            I've never tried it, but I would think an easy way to confirm might might be to open the shutter on a toner bottle, insert a magnetized screwdriver into the toner and wiggle it around a bit and see if anything sticks to the screw driver when you pull it out. Maybe there isn't enough developer in it for this to even work, but since I haven't tried it, who knows.
            That's what I did before but the result was not convincing enough. "Some" toner stuck to the magnet but not with the typical build-up of a "hairy" pattern one is seeing when having pure developer on your magnetic screwdriver. Also would it be nice to know the percentage of developer being added to the toner.

            Hans
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            • REGSIS
              Trusted Tech

              250+ Posts
              • May 2016
              • 434

              #7
              Re: BH-C-280/360 and BH-C-284e/364e series. Toner containing developer

              Originally posted by femaster
              Since the question has already been answered, I thought I'd share a random thought that ran through my head...

              I've never tried it, but I would think an easy way to confirm might might be to open the shutter on a toner bottle, insert a magnetized screwdriver into the toner and wiggle it around a bit and see if anything sticks to the screw driver when you pull it out. Maybe there isn't enough developer in it for this to even work, but since I haven't tried it, who knows.
              Don't know how much developer but enough to enough to recuperate half-empty brush on magnet roller.

              For example: Customer report (mainly) no cyan on top half of page.
              1. Clean drum unit/replace (if fully worn).
              2. Rotate dev unit manually (many is missing)
              3. Set TCR to -1 (mostly for cyan)

              Check after 5000 to 10000 pages - perfect brush and no toner buildup on charging grid.

              P.S. Take new yellow toner out of box and you will see black groups of developer in it.
              When you shake the bottle it will spread and not be visible any more.
              With compatible toner you cannot see black particles inside.

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              • tulintron
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                500+ Posts
                • Jul 2014
                • 651

                #8
                Re: BH-C-280/360 and BH-C-284e/364e series. Toner containing developer

                I place a small amount of toner on a sheet and pass the magnetized tool under the sheet. So I have my results.
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