C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

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  • jamaicapepe
    Technician
    • Sep 2017
    • 15

    C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Hello,
    I am including photos of a test page so you can understand easily.
    We have changed belt about a month ago. Also tried PH Skew and after Initialise and Image Stabilisation
    as proposed by the service manual but still no luck.

    Any ideas?

    IMG_20201003_123859.jpgIMG_20201003_123841.jpg
  • copyman
    Owner / Technician

    Site Contributor
    2,500+ Posts
    • Sep 2005
    • 4212

    #2
    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

    Originally posted by jamaicapepe
    Hello,
    I am including photos of a test page so you can understand easily.
    We have changed belt about a month ago. Also tried PH Skew and after Initialise and Image Stabilisation
    as proposed by the service manual but still no luck.

    Any ideas?

    [ATTACH=CONFIG]46948[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]46949[/ATTACH]

    You need to get rid of P-21 so you can do gradation adj

    I would start with making sure the IDC sensors are clean & shutter opening ok.

    Possible it needs at least the Magenta drum.
    Swap the magenta drum unit with the Cyan drum unit and see if the Magenta over bleed turns to cyan. Then you will know original magenta drum is bad.

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    • copier tech
      Field Supervisor

      5,000+ Posts
      • Jan 2014
      • 7930

      #3
      Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

      Originally posted by jamaicapepe
      Hello,
      I am including photos of a test page so you can understand easily.
      We have changed belt about a month ago. Also tried PH Skew and after Initialise and Image Stabilisation
      as proposed by the service manual but still no luck.

      Any ideas?

      [ATTACH=CONFIG]46948[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]46949[/ATTACH]
      Clean the patch sensors & then run 'initialise + stabilize in CE mode.

      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

      For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

      www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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      • tsbservice
        Field tech

        Site Contributor
        5,000+ Posts
        • May 2007
        • 7633

        #4
        Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

        Likely patch sensors or try crash stop A3 paper partly in the fuser and see where image is mis-registering.
        A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
        Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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        • jamaicapepe
          Technician
          • Sep 2017
          • 15

          #5
          Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

          Originally posted by copyman
          You need to get rid of P-21 so you can do gradation adj

          I would start with making sure the IDC sensors are clean & shutter opening ok.

          Possible it needs at least the Magenta drum.
          Swap the magenta drum unit with the Cyan drum unit and see if the Magenta over bleed turns to cyan. Then you will know original magenta drum is bad.
          I can't seem to find the IDC sensors. As i see in the manual they should be under the 2nd transfer roller or am i wrong?

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          • jamaicapepe
            Technician
            • Sep 2017
            • 15

            #6
            Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

            Originally posted by copier tech
            Clean the patch sensors & then run 'initialise + stabilize in CE mode.

            Hi! What do you mean by "patch sensors"? I can't find anywhere in service manual. Also CE mode = Service mode?

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            • tsbservice
              Field tech

              Site Contributor
              5,000+ Posts
              • May 2007
              • 7633

              #7
              Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

              Originally posted by jamaicapepe
              I can't seem to find the IDC sensors. As i see in the manual they should be under the 2nd transfer roller or am i wrong?
              They are under TBU(right side).

              Originally posted by jamaicapepe
              Hi! What do you mean by "patch sensors"? I can't find anywhere in service manual. Also CE mode = Service mode?
              Patch sensors = IDC sensors
              Last edited by tsbservice; 10-03-2020, 06:22 PM. Reason: Uggh, right side not rear
              A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
              Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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              • jamaicapepe
                Technician
                • Sep 2017
                • 15

                #8
                Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

                Cleaning the IDC Sensors cleared the error and fixed the colors! So... a huge thanx to everyone!

                Now there is another problem. I did a gradation test and it doesn't print black on the right side
                of the page as you can see in the image i upload now.

                As i said i have changed transfer belt recently and also changed the black drum.

                Does anybody know what else should we check???

                IMG_20201003_192224.jpg

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                • copier tech
                  Field Supervisor

                  5,000+ Posts
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 7930

                  #9
                  Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

                  Originally posted by jamaicapepe
                  Cleaning the IDC Sensors cleared the error and fixed the colors! So... a huge thanx to everyone!

                  Now there is another problem. I did a gradation test and it doesn't print black on the right side
                  of the page as you can see in the image i upload now.

                  As i said i have changed transfer belt recently and also changed the black drum.

                  Does anybody know what else should we check???

                  [ATTACH=CONFIG]46950[/ATTACH]
                  Clean the printhead with the cleaning tool inside the front door & clean the black charge wire & grid.
                  Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                  For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                  www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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                  • jamaicapepe
                    Technician
                    • Sep 2017
                    • 15

                    #10
                    Re: C224 Colour Print Problem (Shfting, Blurry Images). Also show P-21 error.

                    Originally posted by copier tech
                    Clean the printhead with the cleaning tool inside the front door & clean the black charge wire & grid.
                    I will try on Monday and report back with the results. Once again thanx to everyone who helped!

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