Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

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  • allan
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    #16
    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

    Don't do this blindly i check the material safety information sheets on the toners.
    Contains all the CAS numbers and quantity in the mix.

    Will be supersized to find that they are identical between models.

    Here is a sample of one.
    MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET Page:1/6 MSDS No.:MFP-0322 ...

    Also look at

    Safety Data Sheets. Konica Minolta Canada
    Whatever

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    • Synthohol
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      #17
      Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      Yeah, imagine being called out on a service call and they have the right cart installed but you have no idea they refilled it with toner from a different model. You'd be chasing your tail for a while. lol
      had that more than once.
      last one was 2 years ago they had an old cf3102 with black issues like mad. through some investigative work i saw a xerox toner box in the trash under a bunch of other paper. turned out they ran out of black but had a few boxes of xerox black likely from an analog machine. ruined the IU and fuser. instant billable call.
      We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
      The medication helps though...

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      • Francy
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        • Nov 2020
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        #18
        Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        I hear ya and I trust what you say. But you're a trained tech. I think this is an end user?
        Yes i am.

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        • Francy
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          • Nov 2020
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          #19
          Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

          Thank you for your experience. Even if don't like recycling expansive "old" toners, probably I will buy new cartridges. The new photocopier is too much "new" for this risk.
          Anyway I cannot sell the old cartridges (for c284e) because are partially used.
          Thanks againg

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          • allan
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            Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

            Originally posted by Francy
            Thank you for your experience. Even if don't like recycling expansive "old" toners, probably I will buy new cartridges. The new photocopier is too much "new" for this risk.
            Anyway I cannot sell the old cartridges (for c284e) because are partially used.
            Thanks againg

            For the sake of not wasting it use it.
            It will work just fine on your machine.

            Not all copier toner are the same its quite a complicated topic.
            Mixing toners mess up machines.
            Whatever

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            • positiveg
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              Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

              I must say I bought some 654 toners for my 454 in error. I did load them in by switching out the heads on the toner but I think it might of been ok because of the close nature of the machine. But to literally have to pour out from one to the next real risk to take. But if you're desperate give it a try. And let us know

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              • mearmi
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                #22
                Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

                Originally posted by Francy
                Hello,
                I bought a new photocopier Konica c308 but i have some toner cartridge of my old Konica c284e (TN321x) to reuse.
                Probably the toner container is not compatible with the new c308, I don't know.
                Anyway I ask if it is possible to refill the cartridges of c308 (CYMK) with the old toners of c284.
                Thank you
                Francy
                We have done in some machines. Always check MSDS If they match.

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                • allan
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                  #23
                  Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

                  Originally posted by positiveg
                  I must say I bought some 654 toners for my 454 in error. I did load them in by switching out the heads on the toner but I think it might of been ok because of the close nature of the machine. But to literally have to pour out from one to the next real risk to take. But if you're desperate give it a try. And let us know

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                  See in this case it will work if its a color machine but no developer in the C654 toners so the developer will get depleted short of the yield.
                  The K toner is the same and will work no problem.
                  Whatever

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                  • positiveg
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                    #24
                    Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

                    Originally posted by allan
                    See in this case it will work if its a color machine but no developer in the C654 toners so the developer will get depleted short of the yield.
                    The K toner is the same and will work no problem.
                    Ok cool got you. I was reclined to do it the other day again. Couldn't get any TN512 toners but seeing a bunch 514 on Amazon and can ship rewch to my freight forwarder in time and ship to me. Bu I didn't.

                    I had an issue with my black developer which kept wasting the developer. After getting help on here for fixing it I didn't have any more black. Wih only one printer really working at the time I resorted to taking a little bi of black developer toner for Xerox a new box of course and putting it in the 454 till got the black toner sorted. In fact it was just last night I emptied the developer from the 454 and added back in the one from Konika.
                    I've found in these times Covid with limited shipping opportunities to the island I live and a lot of my options in the US not delivering as they should I've resorted to some creative ways to keep the machines working and fulfilling my duty well our duty to our clients.

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                    • allan
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                      Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

                      Originally posted by positiveg
                      Ok cool got you. I was reclined to do it the other day again. Couldn't get any TN512 toners but seeing a bunch 514 on Amazon and can ship rewch to my freight forwarder in time and ship to me. Bu I didn't.

                      I had an issue with my black developer which kept wasting the developer. After getting help on here for fixing it I didn't have any more black. Wih only one printer really working at the time I resorted to taking a little bi of black developer toner for Xerox a new box of course and putting it in the 454 till got the black toner sorted. In fact it was just last night I emptied the developer from the 454 and added back in the one from Konika.
                      I've found in these times Covid with limited shipping opportunities to the island I live and a lot of my options in the US not delivering as they should I've resorted to some creative ways to keep the machines working and fulfilling my duty well our duty to our clients.

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                      No problems changing between 512 and 514. CMKY all contains developer.
                      Think here you only need to change the tops over.
                      Whatever

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                      • positiveg
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                        #26
                        Re: Can I fill a toner cartrige c308 with the old one c284e ?

                        Originally posted by allan
                        No problems changing between 512 and 514. CMKY all contains developer.
                        Think here you only need to change the tops over.
                        Yep, flip one off put on the other, or flipping out the chip. Either works.

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                        • AL parts
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