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  • copier tech
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    • Jan 2014
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    #16
    Re: C454e Cyan prints

    Originally posted by positiveg
    Not getting access to the file. When I'm logged out shows me it's a pdf file. When I log in shows up like file is corrupted.

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    Link works fine. PM if you need a copy with the firmware.
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    • copier tech
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      #17
      Re: C454e Cyan prints

      Originally posted by positiveg
      Not getting access to the file. When I'm logged out shows me it's a pdf file. When I log in shows up like file is corrupted.

      Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk
      Link works fine. PM if you need a copy with the firmware.
      Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

      For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

      www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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      • afterhours
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        • Mar 2017
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        #18
        Re: C454e Cyan prints

        I had the same problem. The developer is depleted. I Replaced the filters, drum, but didn't want to spend the money on a new DV unit so I got an old bad Cyan developer unit and poured some of its developer in the depleted one. Honestly, I eye balled it and it worked. Problem solved no issues in over a year.

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        • rrrohan
          Service Manager

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          • Sep 2011
          • 1977

          #19
          Re: C454e Cyan prints

          Originally posted by tsbservice
          Any bulletin about this?
          Not read it myself but supervisor told me. Apparently changed seals and the way it distributes toner around

          I'll link it on monday

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          • rrrohan
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            • Sep 2011
            • 1977

            #20
            Re: C454e Cyan prints

            Here is pic of part

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            • copier tech
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              #21
              Re: C454e Cyan prints

              Originally posted by afterhours
              I had the same problem. The developer is depleted. I Replaced the filters, drum, but didn't want to spend the money on a new DV unit so I got an old bad Cyan developer unit and poured some of its developer in the depleted one. Honestly, I eye balled it and it worked. Problem solved no issues in over a year.

              Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk
              You can actually use developer from most Bizhub models, I even used some from an old C552 cyan image unit I was about to throw away!

              So now before I throw these units away I decant out the old developer & use it to top up depleted ones.
              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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              • Bix
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                • Apr 2018
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                #22
                Re: C454e Cyan prints

                Originally posted by copier tech
                You can actually use developer from most Bizhub models, I even used some from an old C552 cyan image unit I was about to throw away!

                So now before I throw these units away I decant out the old developer & use it to top up depleted ones.
                How do you go about dividing the developer from the toner? With a magnet?

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                • copier tech
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                  #23
                  Re: C454e Cyan prints

                  Originally posted by Bix
                  How do you go about dividing the developer from the toner? With a magnet?
                  Well no, pretty much all KM toner is the same.

                  Believe it or not I have even used the waste toner to top up depleted dev units as that's where the developer ends up. I only do this as a last resort, it takes a lot more to top up as there is a lot more toner in the waste than developer. The machine will now obviously have too much toner & will be brown! However running around 50 full bleed prints out of the colour I topper up the prints will eventually look perfect again.
                  Last edited by copier tech; 01-18-2021, 01:12 PM.
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                  • Bix
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                    • Apr 2018
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                    #24
                    Re: C454e Cyan prints

                    This is interesting. I have found it easy to replace the toner bottle cap. So theoretically they are doing this just to get money spent on new toners? I hope there is a difference.

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                    • Gift
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                      • Mar 2011
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                      #25
                      Re: C454e Cyan prints

                      Originally posted by copier tech
                      Well no, pretty much all KM toner is the same.

                      Believe it or not I have even used the waste toner to top up depleted dev units as that's where the developer ends up. I only do this as a last resort, it takes a lot more to top up as there is a lot more toner in the waste than developer. The machine will now obviously have too much toner & will be brown! However running around 50 full bleed prints out of the colour I topper up the prints will eventually look perfect again.
                      Kinda like converting goold old C253 series imaging units back in the days. Theres also "non oem" dev available - tried that a few times with no issues occuring (surpringsingly^^).

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                      • copier tech
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                        #26
                        Re: C454e Cyan prints

                        Originally posted by Gift
                        Kinda like converting goold old C253 series imaging units back in the days. Theres also "non oem" dev available - tried that a few times with no issues occuring (surpringsingly^^).
                        Not sure I would trust compatible developer, even my way is a bodge, its still using genuine KM developer.
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                        • allan
                          RTFM!!

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                          • Apr 2010
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                          #27
                          Re: C454e Cyan prints

                          Originally posted by copier tech
                          Well no, pretty much all KM toner is the same.

                          Believe it or not I have even used the waste toner to top up depleted dev units as that's where the developer ends up. I only do this as a last resort, it takes a lot more to top up as there is a lot more toner in the waste than developer. The machine will now obviously have too much toner & will be brown! However running around 50 full bleed prints out of the colour I topper up the prints will eventually look perfect again.
                          That is some MacGuyver moves there.
                          Well when the going gets rough....
                          Whatever

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                          • allan
                            RTFM!!

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                            • Apr 2010
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                            #28
                            Re: C454e Cyan prints

                            Originally posted by Gift
                            Kinda like converting goold old C253 series imaging units back in the days. Theres also "non oem" dev available - tried that a few times with no issues occuring (surpringsingly^^).

                            Now the toners are not all the same. Up to the C253 range the toner is not changeable with the newer stuff. Been there done that and cried.
                            All the current toner is just if it has developer add or not. TN414 works on TN015 and in reverse then TN414 works on the color machines like a C364.
                            Whatever

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                            • copier tech
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                              #29
                              Re: C454e Cyan prints

                              Originally posted by allan
                              That is some MacGuyver moves there.
                              Well when the going gets rough....
                              Oh yeah deffo not recommended but has dug me out of a hole a few times, especially now when getting parts ordered are delayed due to some virus or something.

                              Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

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                              • allan
                                RTFM!!

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                                #30
                                Re: C454e Cyan prints

                                Originally posted by Bix
                                How do you go about dividing the developer from the toner? With a magnet?

                                Never done it but i think trowing it in a bowl of water could help. Skim off the floating toner and the dev should drop to the bottom.
                                Then sundry the developer?
                                Whatever

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