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  • hquang
    Technician
    • Jan 2021
    • 31

    C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

    Hi All,

    I am new to this group. I need some help from this group expertises.
    I don't remember what I did when trying to customize the banner printing to the bypass tray and now I can't print to TRay 2 (8.5" x 11").
    I have to use the bypass tray to print to 8.5" x 11"
    Please help me to get back to normal where I can print to tray 2.
    Here is what see on the screen:
    2D46C65B-0167-4CCE-A992-8A5F3C0F23F8.jpgB1DFA37E-38DA-46F1-9472-669DE3B20282.jpg

    How can I assign the 8.5" x 11" back to tray 2?

    Thanks in advance.
    Hien
  • femaster
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • May 2011
    • 1417

    #2
    Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

    Originally posted by hquang
    Hi All,

    I am new to this group. I need some help from this group expertises.
    I don't remember what I did when trying to customize the banner printing to the bypass tray and now I can't print to TRay 2 (8.5" x 11").
    I have to use the bypass tray to print to 8.5" x 11"
    Please help me to get back to normal where I can print to tray 2.
    Here is what see on the screen:
    [ATTACH=CONFIG]47946[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]47947[/ATTACH]

    How can I assign the 8.5" x 11" back to tray 2?

    Thanks in advance.
    Hien
    Lets start out easy. Paper size in the regular trays is auto detected using sensors inside the copier and is based on the position of the paper guides in the trays. Start by putting the letter paper in the tray with all 3 guides against the paper. If all is working correctly it should read 8.5x11. If that doesn't work, the next step would be to remove the tray and check to see if there might be some paper behind the tray interfering with the size sensors. There is a screwed in metal catch on the left side pillar that prevents the tray's removal. Remove the screw and catch then remove the tray. It may still require a little finagling to get it out. Remove anything that might be back there and reinstall the tray and catch.

    If that doesn't work, let us know and we'll try to further diagnose.
    A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
    My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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    • hquang
      Technician
      • Jan 2021
      • 31

      #3
      Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

      Thanks femaster for a quick help.
      I could not remove the tray because there is another screw and catch on the right as shown on photo. And I see there are two other screws on the right as well.
      (IMG-9768.JPG
      I don't see any thing blocking the sensor in the tray. But there is a difference after removing and put back the paper in tray 2: new error message "replenish paper" and the "8.5 x 11" on the bypass tray has gone.
      IMG-9765.jpgIMG-9769.JPG

      Please tell me what to do next
      thanks
      Hien

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      • hquang
        Technician
        • Jan 2021
        • 31

        #4
        Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

        Sometime the tray 2 is seen as for 8 x 13 inch with bypass 8.5 x 11
        IMG-9770.jpg

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22702

          #5
          Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

          So ... do we know if there is paper behind the tray? =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • hquang
            Technician
            • Jan 2021
            • 31

            #6
            Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

            Originally posted by blackcat4866
            So ... do we know if there is paper behind the tray? =^..^=
            The tray is clean - nothing else except the 8.5 x 11 paper.

            I did search youtube but found only the how to do this do that. Look like only me or I am the first one having this proplem.

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            • blackcat4866
              Master Of The Obvious

              Site Contributor
              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 22702

              #7
              Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

              Not inside the tray. Pull out the tray and look behind the tray.
              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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              • hquang
                Technician
                • Jan 2021
                • 31

                #8
                Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                Not inside the tray. Pull out the tray and look behind the tray.
                There are two screws and catch on both side keeping the tray. I was able to remove only on the left side but not on the right side as shown on the below photo
                IMG-9768.JPG

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                • hquang
                  Technician
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 31

                  #9
                  Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

                  YES, I removed the side and found a paper behind the tray. Everything is back to normal.
                  Thanks femaster and blackcat.
                  Last edited by hquang; 01-22-2021, 04:12 AM.

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                  • femaster
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • May 2011
                    • 1417

                    #10
                    Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

                    Originally posted by hquang
                    There are two screws and catch on both side keeping the tray. I was able to remove only on the left side but not on the right side as shown on the below photo
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]47972[/ATTACH]
                    Glad you got it figured it out.

                    To be honest, I'm not even sure what I'm looking at in that picture with the 2 screws, it doesn't look familiar to me. Possibly the bypass tray mount?
                    Last edited by femaster; 01-22-2021, 07:59 AM.
                    A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                    My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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                    • hquang
                      Technician
                      • Jan 2021
                      • 31

                      #11
                      Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

                      Originally posted by femaster
                      Glad you got it figured it out.

                      To be honest, I'm not even sure what I'm looking at in that picture with the 2 screws, it doesn't look familiar to me. Possibly the bypass tray mount?
                      it's located below tray 1
                      IMG-9774.jpg

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                      • srvctec
                        Former KM Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 827

                        #12
                        Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

                        Originally posted by hquang
                        it's located below tray 1
                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]47975[/ATTACH]
                        Not sure what you have circled on top but the bottom circled screw is one of four screws that holds the machine to the cabinet it's setting on.
                        Started in the copier service business in the fall of 1988 and worked at the same company for 33.5 years, becoming the senior tech in 2004 but left to pursue another career on 4/29/22.

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                        • hquang
                          Technician
                          • Jan 2021
                          • 31

                          #13
                          Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

                          Originally posted by srvctec
                          Not sure what you have circled on top but the bottom circled screw is one of four screws that holds the machine to the cabinet it's setting on.
                          The circle on top is another screw but photo is dark.
                          IMG-9768.JPG
                          Problem has been fixed.
                          Thank you,

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                          • femaster
                            Service Manager

                            1,000+ Posts
                            • May 2011
                            • 1417

                            #14
                            Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

                            Originally posted by hquang
                            it's located below tray 1
                            [ATTACH=CONFIG]47975[/ATTACH]
                            Thanks. Now that the picture it's pulled back a bit, I can clearly see that now. What threw me off was the long screw that goes to the white glide roller for the tray. I didn't remember ever seeing that before, but then again, unless you are actually looking for it, sometimes things don't stick in memory.
                            A Ricoh Service Tech for 7 year. A Konica Minolta Service Tech for 7 years. Now, KM service manager for 4 years.
                            My Ricoh knowledge is slowly dwindling away at this point. Many things have been lost to time...

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                            • hquang
                              Technician
                              • Jan 2021
                              • 31

                              #15
                              Re: C224 Bizhub Bypass Tray and Tray 2 switched

                              Originally posted by femaster
                              Thanks. Now that the picture it's pulled back a bit, I can clearly see that now. What threw me off was the long screw that goes to the white glide roller for the tray. I didn't remember ever seeing that before, but then again, unless you are actually looking for it, sometimes things don't stick in memory.

                              I couldn't pull the tray out so I removed the left side and took out the paper behind the tray!
                              Thanks again femaster.

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