High Durability BK Drum DR315K

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  • tech51
    Senior Tech

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    • Jan 2009
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    #16
    Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
    Interesting thread but has anyone determined if it's best to use the high durability drum? I need to know so I can stop reading this thread.

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    • copier tech
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      • Jan 2014
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      #17
      Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

      Originally posted by tsbservice
      Counters stay with machine not with drums.


      Ok, but say I fit a new drum machine resets the counter to 0%. But if I then refit the old drum back the counter will change back to used counter @ 80% etc.


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      • tsbservice
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        • May 2007
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        #18
        Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

        Originally posted by copier tech


        Ok, but say I fit a new drum machine resets the counter to 0%. But if I then refit the old drum back the counter will change back to used counter @ 80% etc.


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        • Toxic
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          #19
          Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

          Never pay attention on chip pcb, is it possible just replace (re-solder) fuse on drum chip to reset drum counter?

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          • allan
            RTFM!!

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            • Apr 2010
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            #20
            Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

            Originally posted by Toxic
            Never pay attention on chip pcb, is it possible just replace (re-solder) fuse on drum chip to reset drum counter?
            Yes I do it with drum chips and developer chips. On the C360 range you could just short the pins out during the detection time. The C364 range they changed it so that it was not possible. So i started taking the TN512K toner chips and removed and reused the ICP(fuse) on there. Used the TN512K and turn them to TN321 to save money. TN512 cheaper than TN321 and you score the fuse.

            So how will the machine know the difference between the high yield or the standard drum?
            Whatever

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            • tsbservice
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              #21
              Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

              Originally posted by allan
              Yes I do it with drum chips and developer chips. On the C360 range you could just short the pins out during the detection time. The C364 range they changed it so that it was not possible. So i started taking the TN512K toner chips and removed and reused the ICP(fuse) on there. Used the TN512K and turn them to TN321 to save money. TN512 cheaper than TN321 and you score the fuse.

              So how will the machine know the difference between the high yield or the standard drum?
              It will know you're putting CMY drum in place of K and complain and vice versa right? So looks it's easy to make them different by storing different resistance in machine memory(firmware) for different drums(chips).
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              • allan
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                #22
                Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                Originally posted by tsbservice
                It will know you're putting CMY drum in place of K and complain and vice versa right? So looks it's easy to make them different by storing different resistance in machine memory(firmware) for different drums(chips).

                Hey yea never crossed my mind that it could use an analog value input to the MCU in question. Then it can for sure recognize a whole range of difference. Cleaver use of one resistor for drum set and identification. Actually 2 resistors to form voltage divider but the second resistor can be on the control board. Like a 5 button control for an older LCD or CRT monitor had only 2 or 3 wires going to it.

                Button 1 could be 5V and 10 bit ADC value of 1023 and less by a tolerance.
                Button 2 could be 4V and 10bit ADC value of around 819 by a tolerance.
                And so on.


                Found this helpful calculator.
                Whatever

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                • copier tech
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                  • Jan 2014
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                  #23
                  Re: High Durability BK Drum DR315K

                  Originally posted by allan
                  Hey yea never crossed my mind that it could use an analog value input to the MCU in question. Then it can for sure recognize a whole range of difference. Cleaver use of one resistor for drum set and identification. Actually 2 resistors to form voltage divider but the second resistor can be on the control board. Like a 5 button control for an older LCD or CRT monitor had only 2 or 3 wires going to it.

                  Button 1 could be 5V and 10 bit ADC value of 1023 and less by a tolerance.
                  Button 2 could be 4V and 10bit ADC value of around 819 by a tolerance.
                  And so on.


                  Found this helpful calculator.
                  Thanks, it all makes sense now.
                  Let us eat, drink, and be merry, because tomorrow we may die!

                  For all your firmware & service manual needs please visit us at:

                  www.copierfirmware.co.uk - www.printerfirmware.co.uk

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