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  • cHm
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2021
    • 6

    tape problem on PC417

    hello I allow myself to create a new thread because I have a problem on two pc417 modules, tray number 3 create jams on two identical copier a bizhub c450i I change the 2 modules but the two new ones do exactly the same thing I changed the paper plugs, changed the sensor, I ran out of ideas
  • cHm
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2021
    • 6

    #2
    Re: tape problem on PC417

    IMG_20210315_114217.jpgIMG_20210315_114217.jpg

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    • Copier Addict
      Aging Tech

      Site Contributor
      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2013
      • 13037

      #3
      Re: tape problem on PC417

      Originally posted by cHm
      hello I allow myself to create a new thread because I have a problem on two pc417 modules, tray number 3 create jams on two identical copier a bizhub c450i I change the 2 modules but the two new ones do exactly the same thing I changed the paper plugs, changed the sensor, I ran out of ideas

      What jam code is being generated?
      Where is the paper stopping?
      Are there any nicks, or paper being crumpled?

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      • Albonline
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Sep 2008
        • 1098

        #4
        Re: tape problem on PC417

        Originally posted by cHm
        [ATTACH=CONFIG]48699[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]48699[/ATTACH]

        cause of this is lack of or insufficient pressure on those two white rollers in the photo. The df torque limiter in this system is really tight.

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        • Synthohol
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          • Mar 2016
          • 5456

          #5
          Re: tape problem on PC417

          JAM CODE?
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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          • cHm
            Junior Member
            • Mar 2021
            • 6

            #6
            hello how to fix this ?

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            • cHm
              Junior Member
              • Mar 2021
              • 6

              #7

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              • Synthohol
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                • Mar 2016
                • 5456

                #8
                Re: tape problem on PC417

                without revealing the actual jam code is like going to the dentist but wont tell them which tooth hurts.
                help US to help YOU.
                photos are irrelevant without the jam code.
                wheres the "dentist"? lol
                We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                The medication helps though...

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                • Albonline
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1098

                  #9
                  Re: tape problem on PC417

                  Originally posted by cHm
                  hello how to fix this ?

                  i push down on the ends of metal bracket holding the rollers. deforming enough to apply a bit more pressure. have fixed dozens of these doing only that. if you have been putting your fingers all over the feed tire system i would also clean with ipa.

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                  • mojorolla
                    The Wolf

                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 2550

                    #10
                    Re: tape problem on PC417

                    Did you configure the LCT (go into Service Mode, System 2, LCT and set the paper sizes) ?


                    Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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                    • Gift
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 2412

                      #11
                      Re: tape problem on PC417

                      Originally posted by Albonline
                      i push down on the ends of metal bracket holding the rollers. deforming enough to apply a bit more pressure. have fixed dozens of these doing only that. if you have been putting your fingers all over the feed tire system i would also clean with ipa.
                      +1 for the bracket adjustment, we also had some PC417 jamming directly out of the box

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                      • cHm
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2021
                        • 6

                        #12

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                        • cHm
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 6

                          #13
                          Re: tape problem on PC417

                          thank you to all the problem is located at the level of the white pressure roller, the problem was quickly resolved with your valuable advice

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                          • tsbservice
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                            • May 2007
                            • 7633

                            #14
                            Re: tape problem on PC417

                            Originally posted by Synthohol
                            without revealing the actual jam code is like going to the dentist but wont tell them which tooth hurts.
                            help US to help YOU.
                            photos are irrelevant without the jam code.
                            wheres the "dentist"? lol
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