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  • afterhours
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    • Mar 2017
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    #1

    Bizhub 458

    Hi everyone. I have a customer with a Bizhub 458 with a LCT large capacity tray 3. Every time the machine feeds out of tray 3 we either get a wrong paper size error or jam 99-01. We ended up swapping the LCT but its still doing the same exact thing.

    Any help will be appreciated.
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  • tsbservice
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    • May 2007
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    #2
    Re: Bizhub 458

    Originally posted by afterhours
    Hi everyone. I have a customer with a Bizhub 458 with a LCT large capacity tray 3. Every time the machine feeds out of tray 3 we either get a wrong paper size error or jam 99-01. We ended up swapping the LCT but its still doing the same exact thing.

    Any help will be appreciated.
    This is from machine setup?
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    • Max
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      • Oct 2011
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      #3
      Re: Bizhub 458

      There should be a paper size option for lct in service mode. Or sticky/dirty sensor perhaps.

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      • afterhours
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        #4
        Re: Bizhub 458

        This is a used machine at the customers office. Paper path is clean. Sensors have been checked.

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        • afterhours
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          #5
          Re: Bizhub 458

          I checked the paper size option for the lct and it is correct.

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          • Copier Addict
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            • Jul 2013
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            #6
            Re: Bizhub 458

            Originally posted by afterhours
            I checked the paper size option for the lct and it is correct.

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            If this is the LCT that sits under the machine check the yellow paper separator guide and be sure it moves freely

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            • emujo2
              Service Manager

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              • Mar 2017
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              #7
              Re: Bizhub 458

              Be sure that the marketing area is set correctly, the size setting of the LCT is correct LT for US markets. Firmware and funtion version are up to date and softswitch 10 is set correctly. This is the basics..where does the paper stop when it jams, any unusual noise or grinding as the paper attempts to push into the main feed area? Can you get an internal test print (gui, config page ect) to print. How many copies on the system. I assume bypass tray works as well, and if you've replaced the LCT the issue must be confined to the area where paper moves fout of the LCT and into the main feed path. Any kicks on the lead edge? We have been troubleshooting this 9901 code since the e series..E

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              • afterhours
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                #8
                Re: Bizhub 458

                Originally posted by copier addict
                If this is the LCT that sits under the machine check the yellow paper separator guide and be sure it moves freely
                Can you describe what you mean by the yellow paper seperator.

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                • afterhours
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                  Re: Bizhub 458

                  Originally posted by emujo2
                  Be sure that the marketing area is set correctly, the size setting of the LCT is correct LT for US markets. Firmware and funtion version are up to date and softswitch 10 is set correctly. This is the basics..where does the paper stop when it jams, any unusual noise or grinding as the paper attempts to push into the main feed area? Can you get an internal test print (gui, config page ect) to print. How many copies on the system. I assume bypass tray works as well, and if you've replaced the LCT the issue must be confined to the area where paper moves fout of the LCT and into the main feed path. Any kicks on the lead edge? We have been troubleshooting this 9901 code since the e series..E
                  Firmware is up to date. The machine has 53k total on it. I'll check soft switch 10.

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                  • afterhours
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                    #10
                    Re: Bizhub 458

                    Originally posted by emujo2
                    Be sure that the marketing area is set correctly, the size setting of the LCT is correct LT for US markets. Firmware and funtion version are up to date and softswitch 10 is set correctly. This is the basics..where does the paper stop when it jams, any unusual noise or grinding as the paper attempts to push into the main feed area? Can you get an internal test print (gui, config page ect) to print. How many copies on the system. I assume bypass tray works as well, and if you've replaced the LCT the issue must be confined to the area where paper moves fout of the LCT and into the main feed path. Any kicks on the lead edge? We have been troubleshooting this 9901 code since the e series..E
                    The paper stops when it reaches tray 2. You hear the paper buckle just before this happens.

                    If I cheat the door it comes.out of the lct just fine but then obviously jam due to the door being open.

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                    • Copier Addict
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                      #11
                      Re: Bizhub 458

                      Originally posted by afterhours
                      Can you describe what you mean by the yellow paper seperator.

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                      At the back of the tray between the two stacks of paper there is a yellow actuator. It needs to be free to move once the paper is loaded. That means there has to be a gap between the two stacks of paper.

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                      • tsbservice
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                        • May 2007
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                        #12
                        Re: Bizhub 458

                        Originally posted by afterhours
                        Firmware is up to date. The machine has 53k total on it. I'll check soft switch 10.

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                        Sounds like a killer second hand machine with this counter. Function version should be setup correctly according FW version but LCT problem isn't related. Initialize it from Service mode to start fresh.
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                        • Copier Addict
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                          Re: Bizhub 458

                          Originally posted by afterhours
                          The paper stops when it reaches tray 2. You hear the paper buckle just before this happens.

                          If I cheat the door it comes.out of the lct just fine but then obviously jam due to the door being open.

                          Sent from my SM-G981U using Tapatalk

                          Another thing with these trays is the spring clutch that is on the transport rollers. With the LCT door open the gray transport rollers should turn freely when you roll them upwards and lock when you roll them downwards. If not, there is a spacer that can be installed to fix it.

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                          • afterhours
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                            #14
                            Re: Bizhub 458

                            Originally posted by copier addict
                            Another thing with these trays is the spring clutch that is on the transport rollers. With the LCT door open the gray transport rollers should turn freely when you roll them upwards and lock when you roll them downwards. If not, there is a spacer that can be installed to fix it.
                            Thank you. I'll check that.

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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

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                              #15
                              Re: Bizhub 458

                              bizhub 658e with PC-415, J9901 and J20-02

                              Did you see this? =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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