[Misc] C654e trouble.

[allan]

Hi guys.

A costumer of mine got a C654e from a seller as is. Its on 41K b/w and 8K color clicks.Found the ADF original tray ripped out and harnesses with many broken wires there was also evidence that the machine was tilted, the dev was all on one side of the tanks.

The condition of the IU's does not correspond to the engine use and guess they were changed out with older IU's at some time. Looks the same for the K drum unit but dev looks good there .

Removed the tray and wiring. Disabled the ADF first but got C9103 on start-up then disabled the scanner as well. Machine started and came to ready, printing internal and external prints as normal. Wanted to check the CMYK halftones and do gradation.

Stabilize works and completes but if I try and print the gradation sheets or the half tones the start button goes from blue to red the engine starts to run but other than that nothing happens.

Any advice would be appreciated.

[blackcat4866]

Re: C654e trouble.

I'm guessing this machine was dropped.

What errors do you see on the management list? That's a good place to start.

I hope it was cheap, because the expensive part is coming. =^..^=

[tsbservice]

Re: C654e trouble.

Allan here:
Bizhub c364e can't run stabilizer

[tsbservice]

Re: C654e trouble.

I'm guessing this machine was dropped.

What errors do you see on the management list? That's a good place to start.

I hope it was cheap, because the expensive part is coming. =^..^=

Good point about MML list I'm kinda addicted to study this plus you test machine a little for paper jams

[Phil B.]

Re: C654e trouble.

Hi guys.

A costumer of mine got a C654e from a seller as is. Its on 41K b/w and 8K color clicks.Found the ADF original tray ripped out and harnesses with many broken wires there was also evidence that the machine was tilted, the dev was all on one side of the tanks.

The condition of the IU's does not correspond to the engine use and guess they were changed out with older IU's at some time. Looks the same for the K drum unit but dev looks good there .

Removed the tray and wiring. Disabled the ADF first but got C9103 on start-up then disabled the scanner as well. Machine started and came to ready, printing internal and external prints as normal. Wanted to check the CMYK halftones and do gradation.

Stabilize works and completes but if I try and print the gradation sheets or the half tones the start button goes from blue to red the engine starts to run but other than that nothing happens.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Agree with the others... sound like a charge repair to me! sock 'em good allan!

[allan]

Re: C654e trouble.

I'm guessing this machine was dropped.

What errors do you see on the management list? That's a good place to start.

I hope it was cheap, because the expensive part is coming. =^..^=

Will take the time to do that fore sure the next time i get there. Most of my time today was spent on cleaning and inspecting the units before having to leave for a contract call. The color IU's are not in the same condition and range from ok to bad. fuser and ITBU looks fair but the transfer roller does not match the same good condition of the belt. Could not see solid evidence of the machine taking a drop but it was manhandled during transport with no doubt.

Told him that he got a lemon and that it would hurt to get it up to scratch. He got it machine and finisher for about $1500. There is some hope.

He

Allan here:
Bizhub c364e can't run stabilizer

Stabilizer completes with no problem. Know that if some AC bias stetting gets changed stabilizer does not work but will print half tones if i remember correctly. Going to check that thread link out quick thanks.

[allan]

Re: C654e trouble.

Allan here:
Bizhub c364e can't run stabilizer

Will look for special tray setting on tray1 and check the default color mode. Never did try and print a management list. The MML should have the same issue if its a paper size/type problem. Remember it did show A4 LEF on tray1 but did not notice a special type icon.

[allan]

Re: C654e trouble.

Agree with the others... sound like a charge repair to me! sock 'em good allan!

He has been a very loyal cash costumer of mine. Charged him at a better rate than most other customers.
Just wish I could be present when he picks the boxes up from across provincial lines.

[tsbservice]

Re: C654e trouble.

Should be good machine not a lemon I hope. The engine is solid unlike the newer ones. Plus if there's one capable to resurrect the Phoenix you're likely candidate. But yes having donor machine will be tremendous advantage.

[allan]

Re: C654e trouble.

Anyone having good luck with rebuilding these IU's? Had mixed outcomes rebuilding the K drum units and refilling the K dev tanks.

[tulintron]

Re: C654e trouble.

Anyone having good luck with rebuilding these IU's? Had mixed outcomes rebuilding the K drum units and refilling the K dev tanks.

I had. We do this constantly in our laboratory. Drums, blades, coronas and new developers. We recorded the chips. Everything is right here.

[allan]

Re: C654e trouble.

I had. We do this constantly in our laboratory. Drums, blades, coronas and new developers. We recorded the chips. Everything is right here.

What do you do about the sponge seals between the diferent components of the IU's? Did fiddle with the IU711CMY a while ago and remembered tearing a seal somewhere while dissembling it.

[tulintron]

Re: C654e trouble.

What do you do about the sponge seals between the diferent components of the IU's? Did fiddle with the IU711CMY a while ago and remembered tearing a seal somewhere while dissembling it.

We have knives with molds from various parts of the printers. We cut and replace.

[allan]

Re: C654e trouble.

We have knives with molds from various parts of the printers. We cut and replace.

Will check what i can get to cut seals out from.