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  • emujo2
    Service Manager

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    • Mar 2017
    • 1580

    [Misc] Drum Scratched

    had an account with micro scratches on the K drum,,Less than 5K prints. had to replace drum, could not find a reason for the scratches. Went back out 1 week later, same micro scratches on new K drum and now the same on CMY drums. After some research we found that the internal temp sensor was malfunctioning, showing 0 degrees. machine was over compensating for what it thought was a freezing environment. Hope I can save someone a good chunk of wasted $$$. E
  • blackcat4866
    Master Of The Obvious

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    10,000+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 22703

    #2
    Re: Drum Scratched

    Thanks for sharing!

    I had a C754e that kept buffing the gloss off the black drum. It turned out that there was a problem with the black developing unit. It was so full it was forcing developer out the doctor blade gap. There was a mound of developer that piled up on top of the developing unit, buffing the surface off the drum. =^..^=
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    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    • tsbservice
      Field tech

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      5,000+ Posts
      • May 2007
      • 7635

      #3
      Re: Drum Scratched

      Originally posted by emujo2
      had an account with micro scratches on the K drum,,Less than 5K prints. had to replace drum, could not find a reason for the scratches. Went back out 1 week later, same micro scratches on new K drum and now the same on CMY drums. After some research we found that the internal temp sensor was malfunctioning, showing 0 degrees. machine was over compensating for what it thought was a freezing environment. Hope I can save someone a good chunk of wasted $$$. E
      Perhaps knowing the model will be of use. I will guess it's C250i
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      • emujo2
        Service Manager

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        • Mar 2017
        • 1580

        #4
        Re: Drum Scratched

        Yes, I series. C450i to be exact.

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        • jwai
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • May 2018
          • 497

          #5
          Re: Drum Scratched

          i series, frequently replaced drums......

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          • tech51
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Jan 2009
            • 846

            #6

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            • tsbservice
              Field tech

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              5,000+ Posts
              • May 2007
              • 7635

              #7
              Re: Drum Scratched

              Originally posted by emujo2
              had an account with micro scratches on the K drum,,Less than 5K prints. had to replace drum, could not find a reason for the scratches. Went back out 1 week later, same micro scratches on new K drum and now the same on CMY drums. After some research we found that the internal temp sensor was malfunctioning, showing 0 degrees. machine was over compensating for what it thought was a freezing environment. Hope I can save someone a good chunk of wasted $$$. E
              MML list is your friend. Study it all anomalies will present there.
              A tree is known by its fruit, a man by his deeds. A good deed is never lost, he who sows courtesy, reaps friendship, and he who plants kindness gathers love.
              Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never cease to be amused.

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              • copyman
                Owner / Technician

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                2,500+ Posts
                • Sep 2005
                • 4217

                #8
                Re: Drum Scratched

                Why couldn't K/M leave well enough alone. Just stayed with the 4 series style drum. Probably answer my own question, I'm sure it's because they know the consumable life counters were turned off on the 4 series and drums & other items could go 2-3 cycles before changing. They must of realized they weren't making enough $$$ on the consumables so they go to a piece of crap drums with a PCR!

                Little does Kon/Min know a move like this will hurt them in the long run when the end user upgrades and wants NO part of a consumable money pit and buys different OEM!

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                • Synaux
                  Service Manager

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                  • Mar 2012
                  • 1224

                  #9
                  Re: Drum Scratched

                  Originally posted by emujo2
                  had an account with micro scratches on the K drum,,Less than 5K prints. had to replace drum, could not find a reason for the scratches. Went back out 1 week later, same micro scratches on new K drum and now the same on CMY drums. After some research we found that the internal temp sensor was malfunctioning, showing 0 degrees. machine was over compensating for what it thought was a freezing environment. Hope I can save someone a good chunk of wasted $$$. E
                  So I get that the machine thought it was freezing and regardless of the notion a code should have been displayed/thought of on the development-side (you know, because would be a very rare operating environment).

                  What actually caused the scratches? xbelt running 24/7 or something?

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                  • emujo2
                    Service Manager

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                    • Mar 2017
                    • 1580

                    #10
                    Re: Drum Scratched

                    Possibly an overcharge of the pre charge roller. Not 100% certain.

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