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  • KMFLT3CH
    Trusted Tech

    100+ Posts
    • May 2017
    • 221

    #16
    Re: Differences between rollers

    Originally posted by srvctec
    That part is absolutely ridiculously priced at over $60.00 our cost which is why we stopped using it vs. just around $10.00 for the A00J563600 rollers. I don't remember the last time I had a torque limiter cause an issue. I think I've replaced 2 in 33+ years on any machine in any place (not just ADF).
    Crazy, those don't even run us 1/3 of your price.

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    • Digital
      Technician
      • Feb 2021
      • 17

      #17
      Re: Differences between rollers

      Originally posted by KMFLT3CH
      For ADF sep roller I use A3CFPP4H00 on EVERY model. it's basically a A00J563600 + torque limiter + metal shaft held inside a black holder. they fit everything, and in case it's an older machine with a white holder, just pop out the 4H00 roller+limiter+shaft and insert into the old style holder. They work fantastic.

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      We use this aswell, but the cost is too high (i think like 30 euro, it's 33$). It's only a roller with a torque limiter!
      I think that from now we will replace the roller with 9J07340901, it's much cheaper... and from what i read this roller is more durable.

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      • Prestige3613
        Technician
        • Apr 2015
        • 14

        #18
        Re: Differences between rollers

        Originally posted by copier tech
        A64J564101 & A00J563600 are made from exactly the same material.

        A64J564101 looks a lighter colour only because the shaft is grey.

        I just found this thread and wanted to ask you all if you've tried using the A00J563600 + adding clip instead of the newer A64J564101 which comes with the clip included. Also, any of you know the part number for the clip?

        Also, for the ADF the A3CFPP4H00 have you all tried replacing only the tire with A00J563600 and how did that work out for you? One of our guys keeps insisting he needs to replace the entire assembly every single time.

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        • blackcat4866
          Master Of The Obvious

          Site Contributor
          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2007
          • 22985

          #19
          Re: Differences between rollers

          We just scavenge clips. And the built in clips have broken on a couple of occasions, making it necessary to install a clip.
          =^..^=
          If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
          1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
          2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
          3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
          4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
          5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

          blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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          • EarthKmTech
            Step aside, noob

            1,000+ Posts
            • May 2009
            • 2139

            #20
            Re: Differences between rollers

            do what works for you - but in certain environments the harder blue sep roller when used in ADF's does cause reliability issues. We change them out for reds when they come from the factory that way on the first complaint of adf pickup jamming / multifeeding. Every roller would be made as hard as rock and last forever if there were no consequences. Everything is a compromise between longevity and performance.

            I've had fellow techs whinge when I've retrofitted the blue sep rollers to feed units of early machines - even though its officially allowed, again in certain environments it can increase issues.

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            • Prestige3613
              Technician
              • Apr 2015
              • 14

              #21
              Re: Differences between rollers

              Originally posted by EarthKmTech
              do what works for you - but in certain environments the harder blue sep roller when used in ADF's does cause reliability issues. We change them out for reds when they come from the factory that way on the first complaint of adf pickup jamming / multifeeding. Every roller would be made as hard as rock and last forever if there were no consequences. Everything is a compromise between longevity and performance.

              I've had fellow techs whinge when I've retrofitted the blue sep rollers to feed units of early machines - even though its officially allowed, again in certain environments it can increase issues.
              Thank you, I appreciate your input.

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              • Prestige3613
                Technician
                • Apr 2015
                • 14

                #22
                Re: Differences between rollers

                Originally posted by blackcat4866
                We just scavenge clips. And the built in clips have broken on a couple of occasions, making it necessary to install a clip.
                =^..^=
                Yeah, that's what we're doing but we're running out of units to pull from. I found this one 56AA40490 but I'm not sure if it will work with all the models. Might just order a few to try them.

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                • blackcat4866
                  Master Of The Obvious

                  Site Contributor
                  10,000+ Posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 22985

                  #23
                  Re: Differences between rollers

                  Originally posted by Prestige3613
                  Yeah, that's what we're doing but we're running out of units to pull from. I found this one 56AA40490 but I'm not sure if it will work with all the models. Might just order a few to try them.
                  That's the number I found in the 4 series manual. I'd expect then to ship in packages of a dozen. =^..^=
                  If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                  1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                  2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                  3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                  4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                  5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                  blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                  • Reed
                    Senior Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    250+ Posts
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 257

                    #24
                    Re: Differences between rollers

                    If you don't always want to change out the feed and sep roller at the same time. I usually rotate the tires ( as long as the feed roller looks good). I will throw out the sep roller and replace it with the feed roller above and install a brand new feed roller. The sep roller seems to wear out really fast . I haven't had any issues doing it.

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