[Misc] Differences between rollers

[Digital]

Hello guys,
i want to know if someone knows the differences between A00J563600, A64J564101 and A64J564101. I know that the last two that i mentioned have the clip, but i want to know if the are some differences in the materials, or if someone last longer than others.

[KMFLT3CH]

Re: Differences between rollers

AA2J560000 (light blue with clip) is the newest and is made of a harder compound than the A64J564101

A64J564101 (pink with clip) is harder than A00J563600

A00J563600 (red, no clip) is the oldest and softest.

[Woxner]

Re: Differences between rollers

I was told the red ones are the same just different shafts. I chuck the blue seps on i series and use the red one. Stops a lot of jams

[Toxic]

Re: Differences between rollers

Yes, red ones are the softest material and have best grip but also wear quickest.
From my experience they can last at least 100-150k and that is ok for the price.
I replace only red rubber from A00J563600 for ADFs separation rollers too .

[srvctec]

Re: Differences between rollers

Yes, red ones are the softest material and have best grip but also wear quickest.
From my experience they can last at least 100-150k and that is ok for the price.
I replace only red rubber from A00J563600 for ADFs separation rollers too .

We used to do that too until we discovered the blue 9J07340901 is a direct drop-in replacement (no need to slide the rubber off the center) and lasts twice as long (since it's quite a bit harder rubber) as using a red A00J563600 rubber. Because the blue one lasts so much longer, the ADF feed roller wears out about the same time but when using the red sep, it would wear out WAY before the feed would. So, especially on high volume scanning customers, we just put on the blue one at the same time as a new feed roller.

[tsbservice]

Re: Differences between rollers

We used to do that too until we discovered the blue 9J07340901 is a direct drop-in replacement (no need to slide the rubber off the center) and lasts twice as long as using a red A00J563600 rubber. Because the blue one lasts so much longer, the ADF feed roller wears out about the same time but when using the red sep, it would wear out WAY before the feed would. So, especially on high volume scanning customers, we just put on the blue one at the same time as a new feed roller.

Side question; will this blue roller work better in place of red ones separation rollers (A00J563600) in paper feed units?

[srvctec]

Re: Differences between rollers

Side question; will this blue roller work better in place of red ones separation rollers (A00J563600) in paper feed units?

Not sure, haven't tried that yet but I bet they would. You would have to slide off the blue rubber and swap it for the red, though since the center is different.

I should clarify a bit. We put the blue ones on when the feed roller is A143563100 (the on with the white center and gear built in). Can't remember what all ADF's those go on but the rubber on them seems a bit different composition than A00J563600 and it's clear instead of red. When paired with the blue, they work very well together for a very long time.

[Digital]

Re: Differences between rollers

Thanks to all for the answers. But i have something else to ask.

For Tray Paper Feed:

• A00J563600 (red, no clip) is the oldest and softest.
• A64J564101 (pink with clip) is harder than A00J563600.
• AA2J560000 (blue with clip) is the newest and is made of a harder compoundthan the A64J564101.

So is right to say that AA2J560000 is the best roller for now?
Should i use it in combination with A64J564101 like Konica do with i Series? Can i use it everywhere or it's better to stick to the rollers that Konica provides for every machine in its PARTS GUIDE MANUAL?

For ADF:

Is 9J07340901 + A143563100 the best combo for DF624?
Is 9J07340901 + A00J563600 the best combo for most recent ADF (like DF629 and DF632)?

[copier tech]

Re: Differences between rollers

A64J564101 & A00J563600 are made from exactly the same material.

A64J564101 looks a lighter colour only because the shaft is grey.

[tech51]

Re: Differences between rollers

Thanks to all for the answers. But i have something else to ask.

For Tray Paper Feed:

• A00J563600 (red, no clip) is the oldest and softest.
• A64J564101 (pink with clip) is harder than A00J563600.
• AA2J560000 (blue with clip) is the newest and is made of a harder compoundthan the A64J564101.

So is right to say that AA2J560000 is the best roller for now?
Should i use it in combination with A64J564101 like Konica do with i Series? Can i use it everywhere or it's better to stick to the rollers that Konica provides for every machine in its PARTS GUIDE MANUAL?

For ADF:

Is 9J07340901 + A143563100 the best combo for DF624?
Is 9J07340901 + A00J563600 the best combo for most recent ADF (like DF629 and DF632)?

[rrrohan]

Re: Differences between rollers

yeah i still just use a00j563600 for almost ever rollers replacement

Ive always just swapped the rubber. same with a108563900 sep rollers, just used the a00j563600 rubber.

[avecosat]

Re: Differences between rollers

yeah i still just use a00j563600 for almost ever rollers replacement

Ive always just swapped the rubber. same with a108563900 sep rollers, just used the a00j563600 rubber.

+1 I prefer these rollers

[Digital]

Re: Differences between rollers

A64J564101 & A00J563600 are made from exactly the same material.

A64J564101 looks a lighter colour only because the shaft is grey.

What about AA2J560000?
Does its hardness compromise functioning or it's better because it's harder than A00J563600?

In i Series the tray upper roller is A64J564101 and the lower is A00J563600. Why both? Why not only 1 type of roller?


EDIT: i found this KONICA MINOLTA INC. BSLJ-WEB
They wrote that :
In order to improve serviceability, for "Paper feed Roller" at the following positions, New "Paper feed Roller" (AA2J560000) with improved in abrasion resistance by changing
the rubber material has been added as serivce parts.

This is valid for 4 series and 8 series.

[KMFLT3CH]

Re: Differences between rollers

Thanks to all for the answers. But i have something else to ask.

For ADF:

Is 9J07340901 + A143563100 the best combo for DF624?
Is 9J07340901 + A00J563600 the best combo for most recent ADF (like DF629 and DF632)?

For ADF sep roller I use A3CFPP4H00 on EVERY model. it's basically a A00J563600 + torque limiter + metal shaft held inside a black holder. they fit everything, and in case it's an older machine with a white holder, just pop out the 4H00 roller+limiter+shaft and insert into the old style holder. They work fantastic.

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[srvctec]

Re: Differences between rollers

For ADF sep roller I use A3CFPP4H00 on EVERY model. it's basically a A00J563600 + torque limiter + metal shaft held inside a black holder. they fit everything, and in case it's an older machine with a white holder, just pop out the 4H00 roller+limiter+shaft and insert into the old style holder. They work fantastic.

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That part is absolutely ridiculously priced at over $60.00 our cost which is why we stopped using it vs. just around $10.00 for the A00J563600 rollers. I don't remember the last time I had a torque limiter cause an issue. I think I've replaced 2 in 33+ years on any machine in any place (not just ADF).