Km toner bottle

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • zeckryyu
    Technician
    • Nov 2020
    • 27

    #1

    Km toner bottle

    Hi....may i know,is the toner bottle are the same for all km c224-c554. And km c368-c558......because the bottle looks the same, except the cap

    Sent from my M2003J15SC using Tapatalk
  • zeckryyu
    Technician
    • Nov 2020
    • 27

    #2
    Re: Km toner bottle

    Originally posted by zeckryyu
    Hi....may i know,is the toner bottle are the same for all km c224-c554. And km c368-c558......because the bottle looks the same, except the cap

    Sent from my M2003J15SC using Tapatalk
    Just asking for the bottle details..not the toner...fyi

    Sent from my M2003J15SC using Tapatalk

    Comment

    • Gift
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Mar 2011
      • 2458

      #3
      Re: Km toner bottle

      Originally posted by zeckryyu
      Just asking for the bottle details..not the toner...fyi

      Sent from my M2003J15SC using Tapatalk
      I think the moulds for the bottle drive are shaped different so the bottle might not turn properly even if the cap and length fits.

      Comment

      • kingarthur
        Service Manager

        1,000+ Posts
        • Feb 2008
        • 1328

        #4
        Re: Km toner bottle

        Just swap the cap...they work
        Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

        Comment

        • copyman
          Owner / Technician

          Site Contributor
          2,500+ Posts
          • Sep 2005
          • 4624

          #5
          Re: Km toner bottle

          Caps are only thing different. All "8" series have chips. "4" series 40+ ppm machines only have chips

          Comment

          • dbeyma
            Technician

            Site Contributor
            • May 2013
            • 21

            #6
            Re: Km toner bottle

            Originally posted by zeckryyu
            Hi....may i know,is the toner bottle are the same for all km c224-c554. And km c368-c558......because the bottle looks the same, except the cap

            Sent from my M2003J15SC using Tapatalk
            Isn't there a list from KM that tells us which machines use the same toner as others?
            One other thread was talking about it but I never saw the list?

            Comment

            • copyman
              Owner / Technician

              Site Contributor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Sep 2005
              • 4624

              #7
              Re: Km toner bottle

              Originally posted by dbeyma
              Isn't there a list from KM that tells us which machines use the same toner as others?
              One other thread was talking about it but I never saw the list?
              That list your talking about only shows what machines the toners can be used in without making any changes to bottles. Don't think Kon/Min would want you to make changes to bottles and they definitely won't publish the actual toner formulas. The 4 & 8 series toner formulas are probably the same but I wouldn't chance it for one reason, the 8 series uses a PCR in drums instead of saw tooth charger...Developer units are too expensive take that chance.

              During the Kon/Min toner shortages I was converting the caps to use in other models. Had a lot of genuine TN512 but ran out of the TN321 and couldn't get any, cut the chips and fins off the TN512 caps and was able to put right into the C224,C284 & C364's without swapping the caps. Although I would of rather swapped the caps but didn't have any empty TN321 btls to take caps from. It's very easy to swap the caps (4 clips hold cap on btl)

              Looks like the Kon/ Min toner & parts shortage are getting back to "normal" soon. As for machines they still come on ships and will be a lot of delays for several more months. Just my opinion.

              Comment

              • zeckryyu
                Technician
                • Nov 2020
                • 27

                #8
                Re: Km toner bottle

                Thanks guys for the reply..i appreciate that....

                Sent from my M2003J15SC using Tapatalk

                Comment

                • kingarthur
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1328

                  #9
                  Re: Km toner bottle

                  Originally posted by copyman
                  That list your talking about only shows what machines the toners can be used in without making any changes to bottles. Don't think Kon/Min would want you to make changes to bottles and they definitely won't publish the actual toner formulas. The 4 & 8 series toner formulas are probably the same but I wouldn't chance it for one reason, the 8 series uses a PCR in drums instead of saw tooth charger...Developer units are too expensive take that chance.

                  During the Kon/Min toner shortages I was converting the caps to use in other models. Had a lot of genuine TN512 but ran out of the TN321 and couldn't get any, cut the chips and fins off the TN512 caps and was able to put right into the C224,C284 & C364's without swapping the caps. Although I would of rather swapped the caps but didn't have any empty TN321 btls to take caps from. It's very easy to swap the caps (4 clips hold cap on btl)

                  Looks like the Kon/ Min toner & parts shortage are getting back to "normal" soon. As for machines they still come on ships and will be a lot of delays for several more months. Just my opinion.
                  Katun dev units for 4 & 8 series are the same, they work perfectly well in either, also we've had no problems with TN512/TN324 Katun toners that go in both machines
                  Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

                  Comment

                  • copyman
                    Owner / Technician

                    Site Contributor
                    2,500+ Posts
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 4624

                    #10
                    Re: Km toner bottle

                    Originally posted by kingarthur
                    Katun dev units for 4 & 8 series are the same, they work perfectly well in either, also we've had no problems with TN512/TN324 Katun toners that go in both machines
                    Good to know, thanks

                    Think you meant the Katun developer "powder" not DV units. Don't think they sell DV units? I like Katun and use them ONLY for certain parts & consumables because their prices are almost double from my other suppliers.

                    Comment

                    • kingarthur
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1328

                      #11
                      Re: Km toner bottle

                      Originally posted by copyman
                      Good to know, thanks

                      Think you meant the Katun developer "powder" not DV units. Don't think they sell DV units? I like Katun and use them ONLY for certain parts & consumables because their prices are almost double from my other suppliers.
                      Complete DV units, Katun p/no 47996 for example, is a M DV unit, which will fit 4 series, also 8 series, and according to their site, it will also fit the I series
                      Last edited by kingarthur; 04-19-2022, 04:25 PM.
                      Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

                      Comment

                      • copyman
                        Owner / Technician

                        Site Contributor
                        2,500+ Posts
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 4624

                        #12
                        Re: Km toner bottle

                        Originally posted by kingarthur
                        Complete DV units, Katun p/no 47996 for example, is a M DV unit, which will fit 4 series, also 8 series, and according to their site, it will also fit the I series
                        Wow! Good to know. Will check them out. Hopefully a lot less than new OEM which cost $500-600. Fortunately I've been able to recover dev units that dumped by topping off with the aftermarket developer powder that is sold.

                        Comment

                        Working...