C454e printouts are wavy.

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  • Barry97
    Technician
    • Jun 2022
    • 23

    #1

    [Misc] C454e printouts are wavy.

    Print out is wavy. Tried changing the paper and replaced the fusing unit for a new one.
    Tried adjusting the temperature and the fusing speed.
    Cleaned the rollers.
    Replaced the fusing drive.
    Replaced the exit and reverse section.
    Still the papers come out wavy.
    This happens on all format sizes.

    Seems like this happens after the fusing unit.

    Running out of options.
  • Kenny
    Senior Tech

    Site Contributor
    500+ Posts
    • Jun 2009
    • 515

    #2
    Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

    Originally posted by Barry97
    Print out is wavy. Tried changing the paper and replaced the fusing unit for a new one.
    Tried adjusting the temperature and the fusing speed.
    Cleaned the rollers.
    Replaced the fusing drive.
    Replaced the exit and reverse section.
    Still the papers come out wavy.
    This happens on all format sizes.

    Seems like this happens after the fusing unit.

    Running out of options.
    C454E
    (16) - A0ED811800Gear 22/23T
    (22) - A0ED813200Gear 22/26T (COUNT THE TEETH ON BOTH GEARS)


    ONLY EVER HAD THIS WHEN ONE OF OUR ENGINEERS HAS USED A C454 REVERSAL SECTION FOR A C454e

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    • Barry97
      Technician
      • Jun 2022
      • 23

      #3
      Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

      Originally posted by Kenny
      C454E
      (16) - A0ED811800Gear 22/23T
      (22) - A0ED813200Gear 22/26T (COUNT THE TEETH ON BOTH GEARS)


      ONLY EVER HAD THIS WHEN ONE OF OUR ENGINEERS HAS USED A C454 REVERSAL SECTION FOR A C454e
      Is the reversal unit from 554e compatible with 454e?
      I counted 22

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      • Kenny
        Senior Tech

        Site Contributor
        500+ Posts
        • Jun 2009
        • 515

        #4
        Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

        Originally posted by Barry97
        Is the reversal unit from 554e compatible with 454e?
        I counted 22
        yes the C554e is the same as a C454e

        as i say make sure BOTH gears mentioned above have the exact amount of teeth.

        on the C454 they do have a gear that has 22/27t so count the upper and lower teeth.

        if you have a spare C454e or C554e reversal unit in i would just take the full unit and replace

        EDIT: i have just checked the exit section gears and they are all the same for e and non e machines so would defiantly go with reversal section

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        • Barry97
          Technician
          • Jun 2022
          • 23

          #5
          Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

          Originally posted by Kenny
          yes the C554e is the same as a C454e

          as i say make sure BOTH gears mentioned above have the exact amount of teeth.

          on the C454 they do have a gear that has 22/27t so count the upper and lower teeth.

          if you have a spare C454e or C554e reversal unit in i would just take the full unit and replace

          EDIT: i have just checked the exit section gears and they are all the same for e and non e machines so would defiantly go with reversal section
          Yup still the same problem. Is there a way to change the software settings for this?


          What are the odds eh, if the units I am trying are all defective I did change the reversal unit. Trying the unit from 554e. Last option. I try an out of the box unit.
          Last edited by Barry97; 08-16-2022, 04:30 PM.

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          • Synthohol
            Certified Konica Expert

            Site Contributor
            5,000+ Posts
            • Mar 2016
            • 5735

            #6
            Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

            If you have the exit section out, don't forget to scuff the shaft for the one way gear before reinstalled
            We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
            The medication helps though...

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            • Albonline
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Sep 2008
              • 1131

              #7
              Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

              did you try running it without a finisher?

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              • Barry97
                Technician
                • Jun 2022
                • 23

                #8
                Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

                Originally posted by Albonline
                did you try running it without a finisher?
                No finisher on this one.

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                • tech51
                  Senior Tech

                  500+ Posts
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 846

                  #9
                  Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

                  Have you replaced the fuser?

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                  • Barry97
                    Technician
                    • Jun 2022
                    • 23

                    #10
                    Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

                    Originally posted by tech51
                    Have you replaced the fuser?
                    Well I tried newer one. Still does that wavy half of the paper.
                    Forgot to mention that when printing on both sides of the paper, the whole page is wrinkled or wavy.

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                    • Albonline
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 1131

                      #11
                      Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

                      Originally posted by Barry97
                      Well I tried newer one. Still does that wavy half of the paper.
                      Forgot to mention that when printing on both sides of the paper, the whole page is wrinkled or wavy.
                      I have only had 1 ever go bad, but what about the motor that drives the reverse unit?

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                      • Barry97
                        Technician
                        • Jun 2022
                        • 23

                        #12
                        Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

                        Originally posted by Albonline
                        I have only had 1 ever go bad, but what about the motor that drives the reverse unit?
                        Well I replace the reversal unit with another one from a 554e.

                        Can not find the issue with this.
                        Last edited by Barry97; 08-16-2022, 09:04 PM.

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                        • tsbservice
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                          • May 2007
                          • 7910

                          #13
                          Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

                          Originally posted by Barry97
                          Print out is wavy. Tried changing the paper and replaced the fusing unit for a new one.
                          Tried adjusting the temperature and the fusing speed.
                          Cleaned the rollers.
                          Replaced the fusing drive.
                          Replaced the exit and reverse section.
                          Still the papers come out wavy.
                          This happens on all format sizes.

                          Seems like this happens after the fusing unit.

                          Running out of options.
                          It may sound silly but can you run it for a test without reverse section(I mean top section on right door)?
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                          • Barry97
                            Technician
                            • Jun 2022
                            • 23

                            #14
                            Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

                            Originally posted by tsbservice
                            It may sound silly but can you run it for a test without reverse section(I mean top section on right door)?
                            Caused a paper jam.
                            Still the fuser is causing the wavy page.

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                            • Barry97
                              Technician
                              • Jun 2022
                              • 23

                              #15
                              Re: C454e printouts are wavy.

                              Originally posted by tsbservice
                              It may sound silly but can you run it for a test without reverse section(I mean top section on right door)?
                              Is there any possibility if the frame is bent?

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